No mention of availability dates, and no way that I see to change to English

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@wegster

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No mention of availability dates, and no way that I see to change to English

The complete system descriptions are in both english, and french, if that's what you mean.

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@swoop - only some, it seems..this is what I was looking at..
http://www.informatique-imm.lu/catalogue/F_frame.html?http://www.informatique-imm.lu/catalogue/F_art_5379.html

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Availability?

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is 512 total mem or just total mem per slot ?

1GB total (512MB per slot)

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@TheDaddy

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Availability?

You can get an approximate date here:

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- next 7-10 days resellers will receive another small stock (AmigaKit received one today) - there is a 4th batch which will arrive us approx 3-4 weeks - there is the first Sam-flex batch which will arrive soon after

so..3-4 weeks from the January 14th post would put you mid-February, followed by a "soon after" which could be late February to early March, the way I read this.

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support of 1GB of memory

Great!

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Ugh. There's my mind made up then.

I was thinking of buying one of these to possibly replace my A4000 but not at those prices; that's extortionate. I thought the board was going to be about 375 Euros (which is still stretching me) so... no, never mind.

The A4000 will serve me for longer, I reckon.

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Obviously, it's "Priced for the classes, not the masses"

I doubt you're the only one feeling that way.

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Hi all :)

375 euros is the price directly from ACube systems and overall WITHOUT taxes :)

Please take good care of what is written on their site.

Our prices include the taxes, you just have to add the postal fees.

For the availability, we think too that it will be near middle february, but you can place your order yet. Note that you're not obliged to pay ALL the price now at our shop, we just need a deposit (like 50% for example), the rest is only taken when we send the packages.

Thanks,
Laurent aka Faranheit

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@d0pefish

How much did you pay for that A4000? My A4000T with 060 & a PIV card was over $3000 10 yrs or more ago.

I agree though, seems money is a lot harder to come by now a days.

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How much are the taxes?

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How much did you pay for that A4000? My A4000T with 060 & a PIV card was over $3000 10 yrs or more ago. I agree though, seems money is a lot harder to come by now a days.

You can not even get a working second hand A4000 for less than 400 euros nowadays

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@d0pefish How much did you pay for that A4000? My A4000T with 060 & a PIV card was over $3000 10 yrs or more ago. I agree though, seems money is a lot harder to come by now a days.

It's not just that. I'm sure that people would grumble less if the specifications were higher. The problem is that cheap PC motherboards cost less and have better specifications.

Of course, PC motherboards are mass-produced whereas these boards are produced in low quantity. We'd need thousands more users before that changes, and that's hard to do with the current price. I really hope that they manage to drop the price down.

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How much did you pay for that A4000?

Yeah, but one could argue that when the A4000 came it was a little more, how should we put it, "Advanced" technology.

At least for me, when it came out and I saw it at a user group it was by far the fasted home computer I had used and the 24bit color pallete was amazing to me at the time.


Not trying to put down the SAM here as we should all be thankful we at least have something to run Amiga OS 4 and if I thought I could do it cheaper than ACube and make money then I'd put my money were my mouth is so I don't want to offend ACube, but...

This motherboard that has no custom chips and runs a single core at 667mhz is not, well, exciting.

With that said there is still excitement in the thought of running OS4, but the SAM is only exciting in that it lets you actually run OS4 (finally!)


So really the hardware, for me at least, is worth $0. It's obvisouly Amiga OS 4 that we're interested in, right? I mean any other OS you'd want to run you can run on hardware that costs 1/10th the price.

So the question I have to ask myself is if AmigaOS4 is worth 688 euros (price listed in the article for board, ram, video card , and OS4..) plus I'd have to add the price of case, HD, keyboard, etc...


I don't know. I know it's not worth that much to my wife though!!

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@number6

"soon after" in Amigalish can mean about anything. It usually means "several years" (or never). I admit I've gotten cynical.

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I paid about 400 Euros for my cyberstorm 060 back in the beginning. WITHOUT ANnY PPC ! Just the one with the 060.

I paid more then 300 E for my Cybervison 64.

More then 200 E for a 20 Mb hardrive. (ok, a long time ago, but still)

And what is the point about PC's being cheaper if you want an Amiga ???

Jeez !

Martin and his 2 cts....

ps, Also I paid 120 E for 32 Kb of RAM for my spectrum (YES ! that is KILO-bytes )

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Is there any chance you would add Linux instalation
for 20 euros alongside with install DVD?

This is pricy, but is the summ of prices.
If people from Britain or Germany or Norway
complain, what should people from Poland, Serbia
or even Hungary and Italy say?

Hiow much is shippement for Southeast Europe?

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my 2 cents / pennies worth...

A) PC manufacturers are specing themselfes into a grave yard.
This is due to 4core and 8core machines being sold to thousands of users very cheap, if for very little profit at all. Then in 3-5 years time a BIG GUZZY %%% of the market will not renew their machines no matter how many cores extra they get. Just not worth it. I mean what are they not going to be able to do with 4core machine in 3-5 years time. Daaaa.

B) Notebooks are becoming popular but again, the manufactures have to sell 3-4 times as many notebooks to make even enough money from the venture.

IMHO faster Notebooks will be the new market, where no-one can make any money really. But it will keep the wheel turning, if well paced. If the pace is to fast, again there will be a dead end in the market, and then who will even be dumb enough to buy a new PC.
"Just saying it has 4 more cores is not good enough reason for me."

i) Amiga had a low machine replacement turnover when it was king of the castle. I would assume this did not help the Amiga / Commodore case. Existing users still keep on using their classics today, as the Amiga still feels responsive enough for them, so they really don't need anything else. Slowly this is changing as the users now understand they are basically renewing their membership in the community and giving developer a break, from traditional development tools and hardware.

ii) PC market is facing same problem now, they are running out of things to sell to their subscribers / members. 4 core @ 2.4+ Ghz is very responsive, so most users won't be looking to upgrade and this I believe will cause a serious problem in the long run not only for the Win/Mac/Intel/AMD etc groups but for other groups also. Intel has reported a 90% profit loss, despite holding steady on volume. Dear folks, this is not just an economic slow down, its the same thing we saw in the Amiga echo-system in the hey days.

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