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Hardware News   Hardware News : DVI/HDMI gfx output in Classic Amiga
   posted by DJS on 18-Nov-2009 2:35:58 (5549 reads)
Elbox Computer is pleased to announce the release of the new version of the Radeon driver with support for DVI outputs of the gfx cards based on the ATI Radeon 9200/9250 chipsets.

From now on, you can connect your Mediator-equipped Amiga to any HDTV LCD or PDP flat panel via a HDMI link. All you need is a Radeon gfx card card with DVI output and a DVI to HDMI adapter.

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The Radeon Mediator driver will be available free of charge for all Mediator Multimedia CD registered users in the upcoming 1.32 update.

The comprehensive list of supported Radeon cards is available at the Mediator Driver Guide.
    

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Re: DVI/HDMI gfx output in Classic Amiga
Posted on 18-Nov-2009 3:41:51
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@Elbox

Cool, thnx :)


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That´s very cool !!!

Thanks very much.

I would love to see 3D drivers for Radeon 92xx on Classics so I can through my 3DFX Voodoo 4
out of my system.

anything in the pipe?

greetings
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Posted on 18-Nov-2009 7:56:18
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They are alive!

Now. Where's sharkPPC ?

Would Elbox be interested in R&D of a new PPC AmigaCompatible?

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nice to see updates. What's up with Dragon?


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Posted on 18-Nov-2009 11:36:43
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With the availability of the SAM, would a PPC accelerator for classic Amiga's still be feasible? Sure, on SAM you don't have AGA but is that still really a necessity?


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Re: DVI/HDMI gfx output in Classic Amiga
Posted on 18-Nov-2009 12:34:20
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What about a PPC accelerator that was simply running a 68k emulator?
This way the PPC accelerator could simply be emulating a 500MHz 68000 cpu...while maintaining ECS/AGA chipset compatibility on the Amiga side. It could just as easily be an x86 accelerator performing the same function...

Actually suprised this hasn't happened already...

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Quote:
is that still really a necessity?


Yes!!!


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It was discussed here at one point. In one of the Natami threads, I think.

If you were going to go that way, though, surely x86 would be the way to do it!

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It could just as easily be an x86 accelerator performing the same function...


The cloesest to this would be a bridge card you could use as a slave.

The next closest is a PC on a card plugged into the ISA slot of an Amiga.

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@Elbox

thanks elbox

now i really like to see new warp3d driver for radeon and maybe a new warp3d...

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as wazp 3d is already more advanced and less buggy than original w3d maybe it was possible for someone interested to write a hardware driver for it. alain is looking into gallium but his intention is to have wazp as common 3d implementation on all amiga or amiga like platforms. i dont think he is going to bother with every single hardware case. i actually even do not know what hardware he is using himself.

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having waszp with gallium and radeon 3d drivers is great, because the biggest limit on having good 3d on classic is that the drivers are from Hyperion, thats closed source and work not very well and hope of a update cant have.

red also here for more about problems.
http://utilitybase.com/forum/index.php?action=vthread&forum=22&topic=1769

And if maybe Elbox can do the Gallium for Mediator and WAZP, then we have opensource stuff, and are not limitet to Hyperion stuff anymore.

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WOW!, They are alive!

Where is the Dragon??.. Where is the shark PPC???

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Miladin Sudimac napisał(a):
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ELBOX"
> To: "Miladin Sudimac"
> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 2:09 PM
> Subject: Re: So...
>
> >> Miladin Sudimac napisał(a):
> >>
> >> Are You wont to do this answering or not?
> >>
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Your questions together with questions from Amigaworld.net representative
> > (we received them few days ago) were forwarded to our management team.
> > As soon as questions are answered we will contact you.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Darek Smietana
> > ELBOX COMPUTER, Sales Dept.
> >
>

Hello,

> So mangment team says no, as I see....?

No. They didn't say no. The problem is that they are now extremely busy
with introducing our new product (not for Amiga market), which production
just started.

As soon as I have answers for you I will send you an e-mail.
Sorry for this delay.

Best regards,

Darek Smietana
ELBOX COMPUTER, Sales Dept.


> It is been nice to have you in Amiga community !
> Bye bye Elbox
>
> Comi

So this is last from them on 24.6.2009...

Questoins are about Radeon drivers,Picaso 96, Warp 3d, Sirion drivers, Shark PPC , Dragon Coldfire........
And only what I can conclude that they will newer do that...
I wish that someone from them (ELBOX) say that I am not right- with answers only!


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i have once asked elbox about w3d drivers for radeon and if it was possible to fix the voodoo drivers which have issues with z buffer and such. i was told the w3d elbox voodoo drivers were written by hyperion for them. since hyperion isnt interested in the subject (didnt reply to his mails as matthey told me) then there is no future for warp3d being closed source and only possibility is a 3rd party open source compatible solution. this could be wazp3d. the author is working on it but it is just the very beginning from what he told me.

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Very strange that Hyperion, or Elbox not want to make any warp3d driver opensource. Maybe they think that ppls will make fixed in "bad" way ? It's very possible indeed. The problem of opensource - everyone can do what they want => suck in some areas. For example, if i am works on somethink 5 years, and then someone want to make some fixes for that: well .. it's possible, but will i make it opensource ? imho not. Becouse ppls will just ####ed up it with tons of different versions and so on (like for example, with case of Ixemul we can see for now).


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@Comiá

heck! with the "tone" you used, is a success they even replied! i wouldn't if i were them


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this are final mails so my "tone" was polite and their too, but after couple of months of delays "other jobs" out of Amiga market etc... simple as that I ask them, and if they dont wont to answer me whay they dont answer on questions from AW?


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Posted on 18-Nov-2009 19:55:27
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Last interview with them is from begining of this century :)
Last hardware too-other are variation on theme SX;LX;TX......III;IV;V
To many announcments like SHark and Dragon, so little real answers and real new products...
"Hat down" for continiuos suport and staying on market but rest is crap...

So someone from L box can change my mind with answers?


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@kas1e: im not blaming anyone for not open sourcing their code, i quite believe that hyperion doesnt think it is a serious enquire and the relevance is next to 0. which it is. but in this case it gives us users only the alternatives to resign on this or to find an indipendent way. i didnt realize that wazp was eventually becoming an option before alain told me this. heck, perhaps he didnt realise himself. he said his initial aim was to have sw renderer for tales of talmar, nothing else. but as soon i have seen glexcess and my quick and dirty recompile of apoolgl rendering correctly (but VERY slowly) on a classic i immediately wondered how it would work hardware accelerated.

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