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Re: Troika NG Progress Report Posted on 26-May-2006 21:45:59
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| We are proud to announce that another piece of solder has been placed on the UberMiga board. We are on schedule and rockin'. There should be another meticulously-positioned drop of solder placed in the next two weeks. _________________ I was a ZX Spectrum owner....
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Re: Troika NG Progress Report Posted on 26-May-2006 22:11:43
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| @hatschi
I especially like the last one Last edited by dan.hutch on 26-May-2006 at 10:12 PM.
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Re: Troika NG Progress Report Posted on 26-May-2006 22:37:11
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| @hotrod, Quote:
Good to see some joking at the end but... all this talk about vapor and so on... if this is for real, how does it makes them feel? If you worked your a** off to bring out hw and read this how would it make you feel? |
If I were running a business and my customers (potential or otherwise) were complaining, I'd try to do something about it. If they continue to complain then that's my fault, not theirs. _________________ Here for the whimpering end
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Re: Troika NG Progress Report Posted on 26-May-2006 22:51:08
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If I were running a business and my customers (potential or otherwise) were complaining, I'd try to do something about it. If they continue to complain then that's my fault, not theirs. |
Sure. But if you want to relate this to some comments in Amiga typical forums, you'd never finish a product. No matter what you do, somebody will always complain. Sad, but true.
But, OTHO, I also think, they (e.g. Adam, and I guess also Troika) took some recommendations from useres serious and change(d) the specs of their products.Last edited by Jorge on 26-May-2006 at 10:52 PM.
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Re: Troika NG Progress Report Posted on 26-May-2006 23:32:11
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| I for one am very glad that they dropped the TSI 108 for the '109. It makes the difference between yet another underpowered retroboard and something I'd consider for serious use. I have no idea if it was one of my comments that made them do this (a guy can dream though ) but I'm very glad that they did.
Between this and Adam's comments about PCIe support on his upcoming board, I can't believe I'm actually going to have to do some comparison before I buy my next amiga!
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Re: Troika NG Progress Report Posted on 26-May-2006 23:53:10
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SharkPPC must definitely not be vapourware because Elbox has clearly stated that: "production of SharkPPC cards will start as soon as the final version of AmigaOS4.0 for A1 is released." So they did not miss the deadline. |
Oh, give it a rest already. How often will you repeat this crap?
Again, we've not even been approached by Elbox concerning a port for SharkPPC, I for one find it extremely unrealistic to think that they will start this when OS 4 is released.
So, *please* for the 100th time, stop blaming OS 4 for the non-existance of the SharkPPC. It has absolutely zero to do with it. _________________ Seriously, if you want to contact me do not bother sending me a PM here. Write me a mail
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Re: Troika NG Progress Report Posted on 26-May-2006 23:57:54
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i know of projects which actually was "trolled" to death , and many belived the authors tolerated such nonsense since it had its text wrapped around humours comments. |
Especially since the "humorous comments" are usually done by a) the same people over and over and b) by people that do not produce anything but "humorous comments".
Plainly, it becomes boring after a while. _________________ Seriously, if you want to contact me do not bother sending me a PM here. Write me a mail
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Re: Troika NG Progress Report Posted on 26-May-2006 23:59:29
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And calling something vaporware is not ment negative i think ... it's just criticism . |
I think it is negative. But it would be quite easy - you don't believe it, ignore it. But no, we can't do that. _________________ Seriously, if you want to contact me do not bother sending me a PM here. Write me a mail
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Re: Troika NG Progress Report Posted on 27-May-2006 0:02:43
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If I were running a business and my customers (potential or otherwise) were complaining, I'd try to do something about it. If they continue to complain then that's my fault, not theirs. |
Correct me if I'm wrong, but on the topic of Troika, there are no customers yet. All that Troika is doing is telling what they are doing and/or planning. Problem is that most of you people do not realize under what conditions the Amiga market has to work, but of course, bitching and trolling is always easy.
And yeah, it's *always* "their" fault. _________________ Seriously, if you want to contact me do not bother sending me a PM here. Write me a mail
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Re: Troika NG Progress Report Posted on 27-May-2006 0:20:23
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| @Rogue I couldn't agree more. _________________ ikir
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Re: Troika NG Progress Report Posted on 27-May-2006 0:27:03
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| Newsflash! Troika and ACK Controls are the same guy!
Both announced something lowend, then went silent. After a year they announced they were working on two boards, the original and one highend.
They have to be the same person. Noone in their right minds would work on two boards at the same time in this community!
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Re: Troika NG Progress Report Posted on 27-May-2006 2:14:04
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| @Troika
Thanks for the update. I look forward to a live demo of OS4 booting on either Amy'05 or your "higher end motherboard".
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Re: Troika NG Progress Report Posted on 27-May-2006 2:19:02
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| --edit-- Last edited by redfox on 27-May-2006 at 02:21 AM.
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Re: Troika NG Progress Report Posted on 27-May-2006 3:12:46
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I think it is negative. But it would be quite easy - you don't believe it, ignore it. But no, we can't do that. |
Oh come on, you know how they say, "act like an idiot, get treated like an idiot" and one can say or think about what one wants about Troika, but they turned acting like an idiot into a form of art .... _________________ - We don't need good ideas, we haven't run out on bad ones yet - blame Canada
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Re: Troika NG Progress Report Posted on 27-May-2006 4:12:35
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SharkPPC must definitely not be vapourware because Elbox has clearly stated that: "production of SharkPPC cards will start as soon as the final version of AmigaOS4.0 for A1 is released." So they did not miss the deadline |
It must be so nice to redefine your deadlines at will, and have people forget all about your earlier announcements.
However, some of us remember that the Shark is now more than half a decade past its announced release date (which, incidentally, predates even the first supposed OS4). |
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Re: Troika NG Progress Report Posted on 27-May-2006 4:19:10
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Doing good for everyone in this Amiga-community "is" a form of art. Last edited by Dirk-B on 27-May-2006 at 04:21 AM.
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Re: Troika NG Progress Report Posted on 27-May-2006 4:45:01
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| Maybe Troika can use this as a learning experience on how to target their audience. Amiga users might feel insulted being shown crude diagrams and dumb computer pieces. Showing pictures of disconnected components and packaging looks like a lame and desparate attempt to show something -- anything. It's better not to show any pictures at all. Some of these people cracking jokes are ready to spends hundreds of dollars on a working board. Last edited by thinkchip on 27-May-2006 at 04:47 AM.
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Re: Troika NG Progress Report Posted on 27-May-2006 6:51:34
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| They don't finish their "products" because they can't deliver, not because of someones criticism in forums :) |
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Re: Troika NG Progress Report Posted on 27-May-2006 7:27:08
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Re: Troika NG Progress Report Posted on 27-May-2006 7:40:59
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| I am glad your not an OS4developer with a gun ... give good criticism or get shot .
I can understand you follow criticism (or negativism) to a certain line but ... If all comments about a product are good ... then there is never going to be the need for improvement. Take PSP, Xbox360, Intelmac,... there is always someone telling you it's not that a great product ( or is going to be ) . And we are talking about community's that didn't even had 1/4 of the drawbacks and vaporware the Amigacommunity had. Even when someone is only spitting out negativism here, the fact that he is still here wants to say he still believes in it ( altough sometimes very little ) . _________________ - Proud Member Of The Belgian Amigaclub Since 2003 -
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