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hardware OS4   hardware OS4 : New CPU Modules: Estimated Availability June 19/2006
   posted by ackcontrls on 23-Apr-2006 15:30:37 (69804 reads)
ACK Software Controls, Inc. is pleased to announce the upcoming availability of two new AmigaOne XE CPU modules. The first CPU module will be equipped with a Freescale MC7448 CPU clocked at 1GHz. The 1GHz module will retail for $500.00 US Dollars. The second CPU module will be equipped with a Freescale MC7448 clocked at 1.7GHz will retail for $850.00 US Dollars. Both CPU modules will be eqipped with a high quality heatsink and fan to ensure quiet, reliable operation.

Prototype modules will be demonstrated May 22/2006. The location for this demonstration has yet to be determined. Due to the low volume nature of these products, emails indicating demand for either of the two units is greatly appreciated. Stay tuned for updates.

Sincerely,

Adam Kowalczyk

ACK Software Controls, Inc.

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a.kowalczyk@sympatico.ca

    

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Re: New CPU Modules: Estimated Availability June 19/2006
Posted on 23-Apr-2006 19:10:07
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great news..
but what's i'm looking for is: news mobo than can run os4, so new customers can buy it and tryout os4.
looking forward to read pv announcement.
..big thanks for the A1 cpu modules though, they're much needed.

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Re: New CPU Modules: Estimated Availability June 19/2006
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@ nbache

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Well, I was surprised to see people wanting the 1GHz module at all, except of course as a replacement for a dead 800 MHz one. OTOH, the 1.7 GHz one gives me more than double speed (in addition to a proper fan/heatsink). I can't let that pass.


As this news is sinking in I am arriving at the same conclusion.

Then, after time as passed to fend off any fears of the new cpu, I may sell my original XE cpu.

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Re: New CPU Modules: Estimated Availability June 19/2006
Posted on 23-Apr-2006 20:57:20
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I'm still polishing up the details....should be posted later this evening in my time zone.


You will keep us eropeans up all night, not to forget any asians and australians.


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Re: New CPU Modules: Estimated Availability June 19/2006
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@SlayeR__

The Aussies won't have a problem. Australia, New Zealand and other Asia/Pacific nations have just started waking up on 24 April while we're still stuck in the past (23 April). They have a whole day ahead of them to wait.

It'll be interesting to see how many hits AW.net gets/has had today. I'm sure some people have their finger on the refresh button.


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Re: New CPU Modules: Estimated Availability June 19/2006
Posted on 23-Apr-2006 21:24:20
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THIS IS TOO MUCH*!!!!!!!!!


Let's see, 933 MHz * 2 = 1866 MHz...

933 MHz vs. 1700 MHz!

=182.2%

1700MHz is 82% faster than 933 MHz.

Yes, even if you're running an altered frequency AmigaOne, it's still pretty much TWICE as fast!!!!!

The only thing holding you back is the speed of main system ram.

Question is, how much L2 cache is in the AmigaOne XE CPU vs. L2 cache in the 1.7 GHz CPU?



Well, I will have to buy this (1.7GHz).... Time to liquidate some items I have.

I know someone who could use my CPU. (They're going to get an excellent deal, too.)



All my dreams are becoming a reality...Well, almost.


Anyone who is borderline, support this, Amiga IS back!



* Well, the price is high, but that's not what I'm referring to!

 
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Re: New CPU Modules: Estimated Availability June 19/2006
Posted on 23-Apr-2006 21:34:42
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This is great news Adam.

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Re: New CPU Modules: Estimated Availability June 19/2006
Posted on 23-Apr-2006 21:37:19
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@eha

Adam can certainly state otherwise, but...:
Quote:
- Could you make a dual CPU module as well in 1.7 GHz+? I think the AmigaOS is already supporting it. Or could it be possible to make the 1.7 GHz model with single CPU and additional socket for another for even more speed (the price is getting higher, I know...)


OS4 does not (or puiblic versions at least) support SMP. IIRC, Rogue had a dual module at one point, but it wasn't using both CPU modules, or something along those lines.

These CPUs aren't socketed, they're surface mount only, thus, no socket to add.

Quote:

- What modifications are needed on the XE to get the best speed? Do I need faster memory, or some other tuning to the motherboard (jumpwires) than just setting the DIP switches?

If you really feel like playing, you may be able to find a copy of 'setA1' by DrBombCrater, somewhere. Faster RAM won't do much, as the Articia won't support it. You _may_ if exceedingly lucky, manage to find some ram to run at CAS2 instead of CAS3 that current uBoot seems to limit RAM to, but I've yet to find any RAM to use in the A1 (several hundred dollars worth of RAM here) that can run in CAS2 without errors showing up in memtester.


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Re: New CPU Modules: Estimated Availability June 19/2006
Posted on 23-Apr-2006 22:04:27
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@Atheist

Hey cool down!
This is just a CPU module. It's not a order for 1 million copies of OS4

The older G4 CPU's used by most A1's has 256KB L2 cache. The 7448
has 1MB (same as G3 750GX for the µA1's).

Also you can't calculate speed the way you wrote.
The 7448's are probably some % faster than the older G4's in the same
frequency. This would mean that the 7448 1.7GHz is probably more than
twice the speed. But this is just the CPU. You have to calculate this in
the complete A1 system to get some real life comparisons. As the
Articia S and its memory bus is extremely slow you can probably guarantee
that the 7448 won't be fully utilized by the system. But it will be ALOT
faster than any other CPU card for A1's that you can have my word on


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Re: New CPU Modules: Estimated Availability June 19/2006
Posted on 23-Apr-2006 22:15:20
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re-worded news item slighly, as it seems Adam wants mail on interest. If interested, send mail to him at:
a.kowalczyk@sympatico.ca


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Re: New CPU Modules: Estimated Availability June 19/2006
Posted on 23-Apr-2006 22:18:51
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Hi Samwel,


Thanks for this info!!!


So, in CPU L2 cache SW should effectively be ~100% faster then!



It has Altivec???

It MUST have Altivec....


Please tell me it has Altivec!!! Someone, anyone!

 
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Re: New CPU Modules: Estimated Availability June 19/2006
Posted on 23-Apr-2006 22:19:14
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- Could you make a dual CPU module as well in 1.7 GHz+? I think the AmigaOS is already supporting it. Or could it be possible to make the 1.7 GHz model with single CPU and additional socket for another for even more speed (the price is getting higher, I know...)


hmmm, have a pic of the prototype of that dual around somewhere. Still looks wonderful!


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Re: New CPU Modules: Estimated Availability June 19/2006
Posted on 23-Apr-2006 22:21:19
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@Wegster

re-worded news item slighly, as it seems Adam wants mail on interest.
Quote:
REMINDER- If intereseted, send mail to:


Hhmmm... Intereseseseted


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Posted on 23-Apr-2006 22:23:40
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@Atheist

Ok, I tell you.. It has Altivec.


Maybe.

I think..

Hm.. Maybe not..


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Re: New CPU Modules: Estimated Availability June 19/2006
Posted on 23-Apr-2006 22:25:20
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@Atheist

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It has Altivec???



Yes it has 4 Altivec Units.


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Re: New CPU Modules: Estimated Availability June 19/2006
Posted on 23-Apr-2006 22:28:31
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New hardware

Not seen everyday


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Re: New CPU Modules: Estimated Availability June 19/2006
Posted on 23-Apr-2006 22:40:25
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Hi Seer,






Quote:
Giovanni wrote:

Yes it has 4 Altivec Units.

Hi Giovanni,

Four? 4?? FOUR???


There should (hopefully) be one, but FOUR!??

I'll go if it has 4!!!!!

 
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Re: New CPU Modules: Estimated Availability June 19/2006
Posted on 23-Apr-2006 22:42:02
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Ah, what delight to wake on a cool Autumn morning, turn on the computer with the faint hope of some news of the PowerVixxen, and find instead exciting news of upgrades for my XE!

As Niels said, this module would double the short-term CPU-bound performance of my G4 XE. Bearing in mind that there are plenty of G3 XE owners around here who would be interested in buying a second hand G4 module, I have to say "Me too! Me too!"

The knockers and sceptics will be out in force, naturally, but I know Adam has been working on this project for some time and I am glad to see that it is closer to reality. Let's hope we don't have any connector supply problems

Well done, that man!


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Re: New CPU Modules: Estimated Availability June 19/2006
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Four? 4?? FOUR???


Yes. Look here: www.freescale.com/files/32bit/doc/fact_sheet/MPC7448FACT.pdf


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Re: New CPU Modules: Estimated Availability June 19/2006
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@Seer
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@Wegster

re-worded news item slighly, as it seems Adam wants mail on interest.
Quote:
REMINDER- If intereseted, send mail to:


Hhmmm... Intereseseseted


Fine, I even fixed the typo.....ok?


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Re: New CPU Modules: Estimated Availability June 19/2006
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@Giovanni

One Altivec unit, four execution units. Two altivec intructions per clock cycle.
Same as 7447 & 7447A.


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