Lots of potential good news, but Is it the same old story, good intentions, but no retail product?

My condolences to Bill. In all the flack and rubbish that's been flying around, I had no idea he had lost a daughter.

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OS6 is NOT Intent.

I'm still not convinced about OS5. I'd need to know a lot more about it before I start cheering. I still have a lot of doubts. What kind of OS can a small team develope in 2 years?

Depends, if it is based on OS4 a lot of ground work has allready be done, it's said to be very portable.

BTW, I'm not cheering. (Haven't done that since the Gateway days..)

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Quote: If OS5 is Intent and not the real AmigaOS OS6 is NOT Intent.

...and OS5 is not OS6.

@xtergo
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OS5 sounds very exiting even if there is nothing out there yet to say if it has the "Amiga feeling".

I'm courious as to what it is that sounds exciting about it? I mean we know exactly zero about it or if it even exists, what stage it is at, what if any compaitibility it has with other "Amiga" apps. Bill's "100% Amiga" is pretty vague.


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I just had a thought. Maybe that is what is going on here. Hyperion is suing to keep OS 4.0. Maybe because Amiga Inc. will not license any hardware, they are in breech of contract of good faith. Who knows. I do know one thing, Amiga Inc, signed this contract when they were on the rocks from what I understand. Maybe hyperion has something to stand on. If this is the case, go Hyperion, sue them in to oblivion. Yogi

Exactly, how can Amiga OS4 ever be released if Amiga Inc. will not license any hardware?

Hyperion are the good guys. They HAVE communicated with us over the years. They listen, provide updates, and work hard for US for very little money.

As far as Trokia, I can only hope they are somehow going to release Amy through Eyetechs license, since that's the only one in existance.

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...and OS5 is not OS6.

OS7 is based on Vista and we all know OS8 came straight out of Roswell, New Mexico!

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Exactly, how can Amiga OS4 ever be released if Amiga Inc. will not license any hardware?

According to the Q&A A Inc is in talks with others for new hardware, just not the ones we know about. Are they telling the truth ? Who knows. The Q&A does make certain events and things said look differently.


Hyperion are the good guys. They HAVE communicated with us over the years. They listen, provide updates, and work hard for US for very little money.

Eh.. No not really, the friedens did for sure, but never as a official PR for Hyperion..

IF Hyperion was indeed paid for OS4 to be transfered back to A inc but never gave it they are as much to blame as A inc (Note Hyperion is not the Friedens or any other contracted OS4 developer...)

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It's the 3rd time I've read the "answers." And the only thing that crosses my mind is: Uh?

AmigaOS4 is so fvcked beyond belief.

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It's the 3rd time I've read the "answers." And the only thing that crosses my mind is: Uh?

AmigaOS4 is so fvcked beyond belief.

If that's true then I can't help but feel it wouldn't just be better if the Friedens leaked the OS4 source code.

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Shame, I feel totally fed up with the OS4.0 situation after all that Hyperion do all the work and show that the Amiga OS has something to offer. Troika seemingly step up to the plate to get working hardware. & then Amiga Inc..... a).........announce OS5.0 before OS4.0 is even shipping!!

I see that part of the announcement as a way of putting (additional) pressure on Hyperion to give-up on their legal dispute with Amiga Inc. Given that, Bill McEwan is probably being rather optimistic about OS5 - or OS5 could even be completely bogus.

At any rate, I very much doubt that a desktop version of OS5 will appear any time soon.

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If that's true then I can't help but feel it wouldn't just be better if the Friedens leaked the OS4 source code.

Nah. Doing something illegal won't solve anything in this case.

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Umm, not really. Hyperion (possibly) owns the source code, but not the freedom to use it - Amiga Inc gets to say what hardware they can & cannot sell it with. Amiga Inc grants the licenses, not Hyperion. If Troika/Hyperion ignore Amiga Inc (and perhaps they intend to), then Amiga Inc is well within their rights to sue them. Have a look at the leaked contract. (According to my armchair-lawyer understanding of the situation anyway!) I expect blood (or non-appearance) at Troika's Big Bash table

I've seen the contract.. read it, its a bit more clever than that..

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On a lighter note;

Isn't the rebirth of Bill McEwen and his first visit at Amiga.org (and not here) a bit like Ron L. Hubbard walking past the scientology convention and addressing a Hari Krishna group instead?

Where is my T-Shirt?

I think I ate too much pizza before bedtime again. Somebody wake me up? please?

I suspect I know the general gist of most question Hyperion is going to get this weekend though...

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@ ChrisH Quote: Umm, not really. Hyperion (possibly) owns the source code, but not the freedom to use it - Amiga Inc gets to say what hardware they can & cannot sell it with. Amiga Inc grants the licenses, not Hyperion. If Troika/Hyperion ignore Amiga Inc (and perhaps they intend to), then Amiga Inc is well within their rights to sue them. Have a look at the leaked contract. I've seen the contract.. read it, its a bit more clever than that..

Uh, I looked briefly at the jpgs, but could not see where Hyperion could sell OS4
to the user (or bundle it with hardware) apart from the AmigaOne. Could you
elaborate, or at least give a hint as to where to look? TIA.

Recent developments could indicate that release of Amy 05 w/o explicit,
direct license from AI is about to be attempted (McEwen's allusions to disputes
with Hyperion, definite Amy 05 announcements leading up to BB4, cryptic post
by Troika). I can imagine a horrible legal mess developing if that were the
case. I hope that is avoided.

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IIRC there are clauses which state that if Amiga inc is deemed to prevent the sale of OS 4, then OS 4 reverts to hyperion as a way to protect their business - Maybe thats whats being argued over in court?

(I saw pngs... not jpgs...??)

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Recent developments could indicate that release of Amy 05 w/o explicit, direct license from AI is about to be attempted (McEwen's allusions to disputes with Hyperion, definite Amy 05 announcements leading up to BB4, cryptic post by Troika).

That would also explain why Amiga Inc, after ignoring the community for years, decided to "go public" again just now. They clearly saw the need to show things from their side, otherwise the perception from our end would have been pretty bad for them (Troika releases Amy with OS4, Amiga Inc sues them and Hyperion, and the last remaining OS4 supporters go ballistic and swear never to have anything to do with amiga ever again)

jesus what a silly thread this is..feels like ann.lu back in its heyday (BBRV VS AmigaInc).

its time for less typing guys and more productivity.

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I was under the impression it was Wayne's idea to do a Q&A with Amiga Inc, not something A Inc initiated.

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