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Software News   Software News : mui-mplayer port from morphos to amigaos4 released
   posted by kas1e on 24-Oct-2011 20:16:06 (18448 reads)
Hi all

We with Deniil, with big help from Fab (of course, and as usuall :) ) , release a first version of mui-mplayer port from morphos. Check os4depot for it (in upload query for now).


screenshot

There is many thinks to say, but in brief:

The advantages over the our current os4 port: newer mplayer code, better structurisation and code itself, mui-gui with all the stuff , better integration of streaming (working over bsdsocket.library directly), no SDL, sound over AHI, rendering over cgx_wpa and all the other pluses about which know only Fab as he author.

The minus now only one: No overlay. Because of it, in full-screenmode you have no scalling (to avoid slowdowns). Overlay will be implemented pretty soon (i hope).

If you want command line : use it from the shell

If you want GUI: run from the icon (tooltype GUI). If you disable that tooltype, then from the icon it will just ask for the file which need to open.

PS: its is _NECESSARY_ to have update3 minimum, if you want to use GUI. Or, you need MUI from update3, which you can copy on older version of OS and it will works as well. Through, better to just have update3, to avoid any possible problems.

So as usuall thanks to Fab for his sources, to Thore who works on MUI, to Deniil who help with porting and to DeadWood for some help as well.
    

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Re: mui-mplayer port from morphos to amigaos4 released
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@kas1e

ok no problem. I appreciate your work (and Fab's) very much! thnx


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Crashed here aswell (at startup) :-/

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kas1e

Awesome job. Thanks to Deniil and the maestro FAB. And Deadwood too!

Cant wait to try it on my peg2 with os4 someday.

Did you say you are working on porting Ambient? Wow! On OS4 thats wild. Its like putting a German motor in a Japanese car or something :P

Actually I'm looking forward to workbench when i get os4. But ambient has it beat in terms of features for sure.

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Sadly, it crashes for me as well. I'm running AmigaOS4.1 Update 3 on a Sam460ex. I have absolutely no issues running mui-owb.

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It crashes on every non Altivec machine. You'll have to wait for a release without Altivec support.

So ATM, it only works on AmigaOne G4, Pegasos II G4 and AmigaOne X1000.


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Has this first version been pulled from OS4Depot as i would have liked to test it on my A1 G4 XE.


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Yep, it was removed from os4depot by some of admins, i assume because of problems with altivec , to avoid problems for users

Hope today build non-altivec version as well


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Great job!

And good luck with the Ambient port.

I would like to see the day when we can run any Amigalike application in any Amigalike system, to break those barriers that big egos created.


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Not completely, it has been removed from the recent list but it's still here:

http://os4depot.net/share/video/play/muimplayer.lha


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I really hope that does NOT happen, because:

In principle I don't see a problem - always nice to have a choice. For example I never liked the Dopus Magellan approach, I'm a standard Workbench type of guy...

If you compare Ambient (2.x) with WB (4.x) you'll sometimes see in some dark edges that Ambient forked out at Workbench 3.1 and not 3.9. Sometimes you'll miss stuff you're used to since OS3.9. A problem might be that a OS4.x-Ambient should be a complete Workbench replacement - but for example the much needed and often used ARexx-Port of Ambient and Workbench are different.

And that's only one example. I don't say it's impossible, but it is more than "having MUI4" and harder to "port", 'cos both are integral parts of the OS und GUI.

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If I click on Disassembly the line "6ee40690: 101e038c vspltisw v0, -2" is high lighted if that is of any help.


That's Alitvec code!

So, it is an Altivec binary, that's why it works for me an kas1e but not for 440 and G3 owners. 460 has Altivec, doesn't it?

@kas1e
We need to build one binary for altivec and one without.

Edit: Oh I was a bit late here, wasn't I..

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No, you don't need two binaries. Only one is needed, if done properly.

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@kas1e Quote:
Like for example which one ?:) I can count not so many with reaction gui, which are "interesting": codebench and pftp. What else ?

I don't really care about WHICH apps, merely that SOME should get ported, to (at the very least!) show our good intentions. But if necessary, people should write new OS4 apps in MUI, so that can then be easily ported to MorphOS.

For similar reasons: It would be nice to give someone an expensive birthday present, but even if you can't afford an expensive one, giving an inexpensive one will at least show you thought of them. Especially if they gave you an expensive present (MUI-OWB) on your last birthday...

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It is one thing to avoid getting involved in politics, but it is quite another to make an action which is likely to be highly political & then ignore that. The latter just seems foolishly or naive. (We may not like that our actions might have bad consequences, but we ignore them at our peril.)

P.S. I don't expect you to suddenly agree with me (since I'm not sure I've ever seen you change your mind), but I thought you might reconsider your position eventually. Miracles occasionally happen

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I can count not so many with reaction gui, which are "interesting": codebench and pftp. What else ?

In fact CodeBench is not so interesting after the release of Scribble. Pftp will be too, as stefkos is working hard to add SFTP support in Transfer.


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Question, is this one complete application? Or yet another command line program with separate GUI?

Talking of which, same should be done to FFMpeg, I don't see any point whatsoever in 2011 coding programs such as FFMPeg and Mplayer without an integrated GUI.

If they are ran from the shell or given arguments they should run as a command line program, if they ran from the WB they should open up a GUI its that simple!


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Question, is this one complete application? Or yet another command line program with separate GUI?

Talking of which, same should be done to FFMpeg, I don't see any point whatsoever in 2011 coding programs such as FFMPeg and Mplayer without an integrated GUI.

Didn't you read all the posts here or mplaer_ons4_thread ?:) IF no, then do it, everything here :)

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If they are ran from the shell or given arguments they should run as a command line program, if they ran from the WB they should open up a GUI its that simple!


After all those threads and posts and explaining , you still say something which make no sense in that regards (because that is how mui-mplayer done: if you run from icon you have GUI, if you run from command line, you have command line version)

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In fact CodeBench is not so interesting after the release of Scribble. Pftp will be too, as stefkos is working hard to add SFTP support in Transfer.


Codebench is much-much more feature rich in compare with Scribble in current form, really. As for Pftp : its here already and for now, that what is matter. We all have milions projects which will be "soon we will add", but the the matter only what we have right now (that why mui-mplayer good to have on aos4, because while our current one will have all the stuff, 2-3 years users will have nothing).

Btw, i remember one more normal reaction app: notepad ! :)


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A simple Yes would suffice.


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Yes for what ? You say it like all the programms sucks, and you now will say how they should be done , before reading info about that one, and even testing.


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While in theory yes, in practive no any kind of "back" at all. Just because its on morphos good and modern apps are present, not on aos4. So its more like "we now can have few good apps from morphos". But sure, if programmer will works now with new mui on aos4, he can use some mui4's features and be sure that it will also works (of course) on morphos's mui4.


Well, its "few good fellows" - apps for MOS that don`t exist in 68k or OS4 versions (but one that matter a lot like OWB) and I wouldn`t go that far to say that there are no modern and good apps for OS4, but that there are areas where MOS is advanced / having better apps. Timberwolf (and maybe one day OO port or such app) might change that, and it`s good that other way around is open.


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