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Re: AmigaOS Development Seminar planned for Amiwest 2012 Posted on 25-Jun-2012 19:33:42
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| Another good news...I hope that they'll release the videos shortly after. A small advice, take a look at the WWDC videos released by Apple, something like that would be awesome.
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Re: AmigaOS Development Seminar planned for Amiwest 2012 Posted on 25-Jun-2012 20:37:15
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| I've been working with the show organizers to bring this event together. We know there are a lot of questions about who this is for and what will happen. The news came out a bit sooner then we would have hoped so we don't have everything in place yet. We'll have more information regarding the AmigaOS Programming Seminar @ AmiWest 2012 soon!
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Re: AmigaOS Development Seminar planned for Amiwest 2012 Posted on 26-Jun-2012 0:25:01
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| Kamel wrote: Quote:
...take a look at the WWDC videos released by Apple, something like that would be awesome. |
Ah, multiple cameras... multiple camerapersons... a control room director who would direct and cut between the multiple cameras.
Truly, Robert Bernardo Fresno Commodore User Group http://videocam.net.au/fcug July 28-29 Commodore Vegas Expo v8 - http://www.portcommodore.com/commvex |
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Re: AmigaOS Development Seminar planned for Amiwest 2012 Posted on 26-Jun-2012 1:41:24
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| I assume this is a typo...
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according to Solie, is to motivate participants to leave "wanting to code something" for AmigaOS. |
As that statement means he is hoping to motivate people who may be "wanting to code something for AmigaOS" to leave and not to bother doing so !!!
Surely that's gotta be a typo...  _________________
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Re: AmigaOS Development Seminar planned for Amiwest 2012 Posted on 26-Jun-2012 2:36:13
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| @Franko
Indeed. My first reading of that puzzled me as well.
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according to Solie, is to motivate participants to leave "wanting to code something" for AmigaOS. |
I believe it means that he hopes they are inspired to code something even as they leave the show (having participated in the seminars).
#6 _________________ This posting, in its entirety, represents solely the perspective of the author. *Secrecy has served us so well*
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Re: AmigaOS Development Seminar planned for Amiwest 2012 Posted on 26-Jun-2012 8:18:14
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| I hope thay will show us the new netbook at the show!  |
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Re: AmigaOS Development Seminar planned for Amiwest 2012 Posted on 26-Jun-2012 8:27:34
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| It makes a very "AOS" centristic impression to me and is certainly not motivating other camps (68k, Aros, MorphOS) to participate. Or am I wrong? |
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Re: AmigaOS Development Seminar planned for Amiwest 2012 Posted on 26-Jun-2012 9:06:44
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| @OlafS25 An OS4 dev is going to explain how to program OS4. Shock! I doubt he knows enough about the dev tools of AROS/MOS/etc to offer any help in that regard.
But I am sure that AROS/MOS/etc people are welcome to do their own seminars at Amiwest. I would have suggested trying to combine efforts, but I think it is hard enough trying to prepare your own seminar, never mind trying to combine it with someone else's when you are 1000s of miles away, have never met, may have very different ideas of how to go about it, etc. _________________ Author of the PortablE programming language. It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue...
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Re: AmigaOS Development Seminar planned for Amiwest 2012 Posted on 26-Jun-2012 10:47:59
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| At least we need proper sound, many AmigaWest video I've seen are barely audible. So if you've to listen and understand sound should be "crystal clear", now it's really too noisy.
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Re: AmigaOS Development Seminar planned for Amiwest 2012 Posted on 26-Jun-2012 12:04:20
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| @OlafS25
amiwest is completely volunteer-driven. there is classic content, NG content, and stuff from the MOS and AROS guys -- but only if they show up. in previous years dave morris has done an excellent job representing MOS, but we need more MOS and AROS people at the show and volunteering to give demos, etc.
maybe you could help arrange an AROS table this year?
-- eliyahu _________________ "Physical reality is consistent with universal laws. When the laws do not operate, there is no reality. All of this is unreal."
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Re: AmigaOS Development Seminar planned for Amiwest 2012 Posted on 26-Jun-2012 12:20:22
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| I am a little far away to come there for the show (even if it might be interesting) but I can ask in the aros community if there are some around |
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Re: AmigaOS Development Seminar planned for Amiwest 2012 Posted on 26-Jun-2012 12:50:32
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| @OlafS25
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I am a little far away to come there for the show (even if it might be interesting) but I can ask in the aros community if there are some around |
please do! the show organizers have said repeatedly that they're always looking for increased interest from the MOS and AROS folks. if anyone would like to get a table or do a demo, please have them contact chuck washburn or brian deneen at SACC; contact information should be on the amiwest web site.
the more amigans at the show, the more content displayed, the better for everyone who attends! 
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Re: AmigaOS Development Seminar planned for Amiwest 2012 Posted on 26-Jun-2012 14:40:40
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| I really wish I could go! :/ Any chance this will be recorded and put on DVDs or youtube for us not able to attend? _________________ All glory to the Hypnotoad!
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Re: AmigaOS Development Seminar planned for Amiwest 2012 Posted on 26-Jun-2012 14:45:48
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| @billt
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I really wish I could go! :/ Any chance this will be recorded and put on DVDs or youtube for us not able to attend? |
robert usually films most of the demos/talks, and bill bosari has typically offered streaming from the conference; but it really isn't the same thing as being there. it may be a bit of an expense, but if you can make it, it is worth the travel involved. southwest occasionally has fare sales out to sacramento which are quite reasonable.
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Re: AmigaOS Development Seminar planned for Amiwest 2012 Posted on 26-Jun-2012 18:35:21
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| @ OlafS25
You're correct, this is focused on AmigaOS. As with anything, resources are limited and choices have to be made. For example, I would love to cover languages like Python, PortableE, Hollywood, DOS scripting and Arexx. The reality is we only have 2 days and a handful of presenters. Instead of spreading or efforts around we are going to focus on a deep dive in to C programing for AmigaOS so that at the end the attendees will be better enabled to create software for AmigaOS using the AmigaOS SDK.
I'm sure there will be cross over from what is covered to the other Amiga based platforms but the focus will be AmigaOS.
If someone in the community would like to come to AmiWest and host a seminar on any other Amiga related platform they are welcome. They are welcome to purchase a table and work with the organizers regarding presenting at the banquet and all sorts of other promotional efforts.
The reality is the response from the other Amiga compatible camps has been limited to a few dedicated volunteers who spend their own money and promote those platforms.
AmigaOS on the other hand has seen financial and man power effort from companies like A-Eon, Hyperion.
Since the beginning AmiWest has been about promoting an open forum for Amiga enthusiast to come together and share and learn. At one point both Bill McEwen and Bill Buck came to the show, at the same time. Please don't point fingers at the AmiWest organizers for lack of participation from the other Amiga compatible camps. Tip your hat to AmigaDave for busting his butt to bring MorphOS to the show.
We know that we have not released much information on the event thus far. We will be doing that shortly so please bear with us.
I do hope some day you can attend, and if you do I hope you can bring your favorite platform to show and discuss, so we can all learn and grow.
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Re: AmigaOS Development Seminar planned for Amiwest 2012 Posted on 27-Jun-2012 5:44:31
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| If transcripts/slides/notes of this were made available, as eg. was done for the old DevCons, it would be beneficial for those of us on low-bandwidth connections. |
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Re: AmigaOS Development Seminar planned for Amiwest 2012 Posted on 27-Jun-2012 9:47:06
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| Thank you for clarification. Perhaps I can connect holidays with visiting the event someday. I can understand the financial restrictions and why you concentrate on AOS (because of the sponsoring). But I still think that you only cover a small percentage of the reality with much more dynamic outside the OS4 camp. But that is of course my personal view. On the other hand the sponsors are happy with it and the participants are propably more or less AOS4 users are also happy with it, so it is no problem. Are the Americans (that are left) mainly AOS users? It is my impression. |
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Re: AmigaOS Development Seminar planned for Amiwest 2012 Posted on 27-Jun-2012 13:27:06
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| @OlafS25
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Thank you for clarification. Perhaps I can connect holidays with visiting the event someday. I can understand the financial restrictions and why you concentrate on AOS (because of the sponsoring). But I still think that you only cover a small percentage of the reality with much more dynamic outside the OS4 camp. But that is of course my personal view. On the other hand the sponsors are happy with it and the participants are propably more or less AOS4 users are also happy with it, so it is no problem. Are the Americans (that are left) mainly AOS users? It is my impression. |
amiwest covers what people demo. 
if AROS users or developers want more coverage of AROS topics at the show, the organizers need you guys there! as said earlier the show is open to anyone. what gets covered is what attendees bring with them. you can't expect steven solie to demo AROS any more than you would expect harry sintonen to demo amigaOS. it's totally volunteer driven. well, volunteers who are willing to pony up $75 for a table. but i helped sponsored the MOS table last year myself, even though i'm not a MOS user. i'd be happy to do the same for an AROS enthusiast or developer if it would help get you guys to the show.
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Re: AmigaOS Development Seminar planned for Amiwest 2012 Posted on 27-Jun-2012 14:25:18
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| I have posted it on aros-exec.org, some seemed interested but I do not know how far that goes. 75 $ would not be the problem but you must find someone travelling there (or better living nearby).
But thanks I will try... |
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Re: AmigaOS Development Seminar planned for Amiwest 2012 Posted on 27-Jun-2012 14:28:35
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| a drive to teach compatibility on all Amiga-like systems would be awsome.
I would like to see a push for new Frameworks to make programming faster.
Want network capability - just add network module.
Create a GUI app in 5 lines of code. With scripting support/Arexx. _________________ Download 499.26 Mbps, 659.94 Mbps Upload :)
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