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Re: OWB - The first (in)complete modern Web Browser Posted on 27-Dec-2007 16:04:45
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| OWB may be a baby yet but I was trying to track postal packageson the Canada post web site couldn't do it with Aweb or Ibrowse. They kept returning the error invalid traciing number. BUT OWB worked perfectly. Way to go. Thanks to you I didn't have to use my friends windows box to do it. Hurrah for OWB. It has a permanent spot on my amidiock.
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Re: OWB - The first (in)complete modern Web Browser Posted on 27-Dec-2007 17:26:18
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Re: OWB - The first (in)complete modern Web Browser Posted on 27-Dec-2007 17:43:51
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| @R-Team
You're talking about things you know nothing about. So who are you to talk about the Sputnik bounty when you didn't even contribute?
Hopefully you donated towards OWB! _________________
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Re: OWB - The first (in)complete modern Web Browser Posted on 27-Dec-2007 17:51:03
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Re: OWB - The first (in)complete modern Web Browser Posted on 27-Dec-2007 18:06:19
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| You are great...thx for this patch!!..now you make an pacth whit toolbar`s :) and that is enough for this year  _________________ --
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Re: OWB - The first (in)complete modern Web Browser Posted on 27-Dec-2007 19:31:45
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| stupid question maybe... but just out of interest. to the best of my knowledge andrea is working on a firefox port. so is this one (owb) sort of a "hobby" project compared to the "real one"? how's firefox going on?
thanks and byebye... _________________ Michael Merkel  (Michael.Merkel@gmx.net Home) Member of Amiga-Freunde Pfalz, OS4 Welt
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Re: OWB - The first (in)complete modern Web Browser Posted on 27-Dec-2007 19:53:42
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| @AlexC - very cool  _________________ Are we not done with the same silly arguments and flames yet??!
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Re: OWB - The first (in)complete modern Web Browser Posted on 27-Dec-2007 19:57:45
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| @pixie
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If you read the message well you'll see that the real problem is Marcin not being holly enough for deserving money from the OS4 crowd. Remember, he code for MorphOS which is zee competition... |
Not entirely fair, IMHO.
I DID donate $100USD to Sputnik, back when it was SUPPOSED to be open source, which would allow a port to OS4. Then, the story changed to MOS only. I PMed Targhan for a refund, and he did finally respond (this was back when he wasn't on MZ very often..), then had some mail issues. End result - no refund, and I'm not going to pursue it, but nor am I going to donate anything additional to the Sputnik project.
So, it isn't really a moot point that Andreas mentions 'no bounty,' as at least some people felt mislead from when they donated to the original Sputnik bounty.. _________________ Are we not done with the same silly arguments and flames yet??!
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Re: OWB - The first (in)complete modern Web Browser Posted on 27-Dec-2007 21:52:19
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| There is a URL toolbar patch for OWB on os4 Depot now  _________________
Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen 
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Re: OWB - The first (in)complete modern Web Browser Posted on 27-Dec-2007 22:15:05
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| @Wegster:
I've read some gems from R-Type on some other site who shall not be named, and this guy has a clear agenda to push and it's clearly anti anything that is not OS 4.
As for your point, fair enough, I'm not too queen on Sputnik either for the very own reason that it isn't Open Source, but then, I haven't donated to it either.
In your case it was a very specific reason, the reason that one browser has arrived shouldn't be reason for one jumping, imagine what would be if that was the rule. In a bounty there's a two way commitment, imagine one developer working hard to reach the bounty and all the suddenly, for something outside the bounty scope people just rolled out in droves... _________________ Indigo 3D Lounge, my second home. The Illusion of Choice | Am*ga
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Re: OWB - The first (in)complete modern Web Browser Posted on 28-Dec-2007 1:01:43
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| @pixie Quote:
As for your point, fair enough, I'm not too queen on Sputnik either for the very own reason that it isn't Open Source, but then, I haven't donated to it either.
In your case it was a very specific reason, the reason that one browser has arrived shouldn't be reason for one jumping, imagine what would be if that was the rule. In a bounty there's a two way commitment, imagine one developer working hard to reach the bounty and all the suddenly, for something outside the bounty scope people just rolled out in droves... |
I think we agree on both points. I would not have even requested my bounty donation back were it not for 'changing terms' from when I donated vs what it changed in to.
I also don't think people should 'jump bounties' either...although at some point, I think there should be some check in place..AmiZilla is a good example. While I don't entirely agree with changing of the bounty terms once that many donations were received, I also don't think we'll ever see it, so wouldn't be too upset if someone donated 5 years ago and decided they wanted their $ back! :-/
For larger projects, I suppose some sort of time limit check wouldn't be a bad idea- in the case of AmiZilla, like asking donors yearly if they want to leave it in place. *shrug* _________________ Are we not done with the same silly arguments and flames yet??!
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Re: OWB - The first (in)complete modern Web Browser Posted on 28-Dec-2007 1:11:53
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| @Georg
Thanks for the Source location! 
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Re: OWB - The first (in)complete modern Web Browser Posted on 28-Dec-2007 2:29:03
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| @Troels
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Also made a small donation as I think it really looks like a promising project! Everybody, donations can be made via the PayPal link on Amigasoft.net. |
Unfortunatley that link is in Italian, Which I can't read, (I know that's not Andreas fault, it's mine), but I had to copy his paypal account adress, log-in to my own paypal account (english version), and paste it, to make a donation.
So everyone, don't be put off, you know it makes sense, donate today.  _________________ Peter Swallow. A1XEG3-800 [IBM 750FX PowerPC], running OS4.1FE, using ac97 onboard sound.
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Re: OWB - The first (in)complete modern Web Browser Posted on 28-Dec-2007 2:33:14
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I certainly hope not. I can see how it might sap your motivation, but OWB is by no means as useable as AWeb. _________________ Peter Swallow. A1XEG3-800 [IBM 750FX PowerPC], running OS4.1FE, using ac97 onboard sound.
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Re: OWB - The first (in)complete modern Web Browser Posted on 28-Dec-2007 6:43:01
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| @VooDoo Quote:
now you make an pacth whit toolbar`s |
No need for another patch, all I have to do is modify the top frame on my server to add more features.
Today I tried adding back/forward buttons using onClick="history.go(-1)" and also onClick="history.back()" but it doesn't behave as I expected. Not sure why, I'll have to search the web to see if anyone managed to make some forward/back buttons targetting another frame which actually work as intended.
My next idea is to add a history window, if Cookies handling works well enough in OWB I should be able to save the most recent URLs in a Cookie and retreive/display it back.
And then I'd like to make it easy to collapse the toolbar so I'll look into that as well.
Expect to see the toolbar evolve as days go by  _________________ AlexC's free OS4 software collection
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Re: OWB - The first (in)complete modern Web Browser Posted on 28-Dec-2007 11:39:14
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So my intention was not to let the [from my point] money sitting forever on a bounty that is [from my point] not ever finnished.Give the money an coder THAT is doing an BIG task for OS4 ! [and the "sputnik for OS4" bounty IS for an browser FOR OS4 and NOT for anything else !! (browser for all systems or something stupid) ] |
Nice idea but the SputnikOS4 agreement has already been made and it cannot be canceled by the release of OWB or any other similar event.
Moreover, I think you should forget about any intentions with the money that are not yours. Rather donate to Andrea, he really deserves it! _________________ Modern Retro Experience
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Re: OWB - The first (in)complete modern Web Browser Posted on 28-Dec-2007 13:00:36
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I certainly hope not. I can see how it might sap your motivation, but OWB is by no means as useable as AWeb.
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That was meant more as an ironic complement. Should have added a smiley I supose . AWeb developement (or at least my contribution to it) is currently stalled due to big changes in my life and me having no time to spare. At the ideas level I'm still quite motivated. This OWB thing does look promising though, but it seems an extreme resource hog at present. _________________ BroadBlues On Blues BroadBlues On Amiga Walker Broad
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Re: OWB - The first (in)complete modern Web Browser Posted on 28-Dec-2007 15:26:45
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@Troels:
This was only a intention .. not a musst or a poll or anything. Looking at semilar bountys who the money stay and nothing happen,so the money was a waste of good will. My bad feeling over the "Sputnik Bounty" come only to halve from the "Blue Color" [with remembering of other projects on this side in the past month/Years] .. the other Halve is coming from the way this "Sputnik for OS4" was handled and the way it was going [a good point,but not the only, was coming from wegster] .. so it was not "Purely" my fault that this bounty have a bad feeling ....*sarcastic* I am happy if i´am wrong and Sputnik WILL relased for MOS and THEN for OS4.
@pixie:
mmh ... last time i checked this WAS a [in the past even a "only"] Amiga site who have anything related to Amiga ... so an Amiga fan is right here .. or not ? Or must an user here a to post have love to MOS/AROS AND "maybe" to Amiga .....?? Better rename this site then ....
@AmiKit:
Thanks ;) I understand your decision. BUT i really dont understand why people that dislike OS4 can make a big trouble out of this intention .. it will not Harm the MOS port .. it will not Harm ever other port .. only related to the OS4 side. I have maked this Hint to push the OS4 development, not to harm any other side [but musst say, will any hint that i give anytime,Harm a other OS .. who care my ?? ..maybe i am truly on the wrong website .....*sarcastic* ]
So i see it is hard to post on an "Amiga like" [anyway] website an hint that push OS4 .. many user [that have nothing and will never have a OS4 or any related to OS4 {except hate} -THIS going not to Troels-] complayn over this ..
A simply "No,dont need to transfer" cant enough ... [on this site]
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Re: OWB - The first (in)complete modern Web Browser Posted on 28-Dec-2007 16:06:10
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it will not Harm the MOS port .. it will not Harm ever other port |
I think it would harm the OS4 port of Sputnik. Imagine that you are contracted to make such a port with the promise that you receive the bounty money once the port is done. You start working on it. And suddenly the bounty money disappears. Needless to say it would harm the credibility of Amiga bounties in general.
To make it short and simple: "No need to transfer the bounty."  Last edited by AmiKit on 28-Dec-2007 at 04:08 PM. Last edited by AmiKit on 28-Dec-2007 at 04:06 PM.
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Re: OWB - The first (in)complete modern Web Browser Posted on 28-Dec-2007 17:02:09
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he,he .. i have understand  No need of transfer.
To clarify-> Yes it would Harm the OS4 port -BUT- this port is startet ONLY if the MOS port ever finished ! This was "my" last information ... [if this changed than feel free to correct me] And so the MOS port is in distant of finished .. no work was done on the OS4 port ATM.IF the MOS port finished .. it will way more easy to collect bounty IF a port here already. And the "harm the credibility of Amiga bounties in general" was going long time befor MY hint by the way THIS bounty has going ............
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