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Software News   Software News : OWB - The first (in)complete modern Web Browser
   posted by afxgroup on 24-Dec-2007 10:12:50 (16604 reads)
OWB - Origyn Web Browser for AmigaOS4
The first (in)complete Modern Web Browser for AmigaOS4

I'm happy to announce that today we have a web browser for AmigaOS4 that supports almost all modern web technologies.

Since it is a project in an early state I'll write first what doesn't work.. Don't expect at moment Tool bars and all other things present in all browser. But i assure you that we are working on this. But i would release something for Christmas also to see your feedback about this browser.

OK. Let's go...



WHAT DOESN'T WORK:
# FILE TRANSFER
# Cookies: sometimes and on some sites login is impossible.
# Crashes: There are some sites that crashes and you could have some crashes on
exit. Don't send me crash logs.. the functions that crashes are known..
# Chars: Some chars like () in the Italian char actually are not printable.. :(
I can write to you a special version but is better to wait new releases
# Sites Display: 99% of sites works correctly.. but you could find some sites
that doesn't render well. On some sites you could have problem on window's
redraw
# Chinese fonts are not rendered (i think.. or i haven't found a right ttf
font..)
# Don't expect Flash/Movie plugins (at moment..)
# Sometimes the browser could send a bad request to the web server. Go back and
re click on the link
# Copy/Paste of text doesn't work at moment
#There isn't a scroll bar at momen
# maybe other

WHAT WORKS:
# IT IS FREE.. ;)
# NO BOUNTY OR OTHER.. ;)
# Javascript should work on 99% of the web sites
# CSS and all web technologies work perfectly
# True Type fonts are used to display fonts (see notes on how it works)
# SSL works (see notes)
# It is quite fast also on A1200 (well.. doesn't expect the same speed as on an A1..)
# Is updated daily by the OWB developers (and me..)

INSTALLATION AND USAGE:
Copy the fc-cache file included in C/ dir into your C: directory (even if is not is needed) and run it.
Copy the files included in the FONTS/ directory into your FONTS: directory
Copy the files included in the S/ directory into your S: directory
Mount the RANDOM: device from SYS:Storage/DosDrivers/ (or copy it into DEVS:DosDrivers/)

To launch OWB just click on its icon or run from the shell with this syntax:

owb URL

The first time you run it, it will search the FONTS:_TrueType/ directory to see what ttf fonts are available and create some cache files, so you may have to wait for some seconds, depending on how many files you have there. If you run fc-cache first, the owb launch will be fast

To navigate back and forth, use:
ALT -> to go forward
ALT <- to go back

Thanks to everyone working on or testing it!
Thanks to Mason and Kens for their icons!
It's Christmas.. remember me! :)

Thank you and Merry Christmas!
Andrea Palmatè
http://www.amigasoft.net

File is availabbel on OS4Depot..
    

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Tomas 
Re: OWB - The first (in)complete modern Web Browser
Posted on 24-Dec-2007 23:24:30
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That is indeed very good news for the lucky ones running OS4!
Keep up the good work!

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Freaking awesome. Works great on my A1.
Thanks. I hope to buy it when it's ready. :D


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Wow!

This is wonderful news

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I'm going to go out on a limb here and carefully suggest that this is the result of the browser bounty being split up?

Which bounty would that be?


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damm this is awsome l can use my amiga full time when l get os4

well l be never thought this whould happen.

well l hope we all support this . great.

thanks very much


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@Pixie

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Which bounty would that be?


It can't be the Amizilla bounty, since OWB is an adaptation of Apple's WebCore.

@Afxgroup

Thank you


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OWB and IBrowse 2.4 tip:

Most of us will continue to browse with IBrowse 2.4 until OWB gets the basic functionality implemented. Well, you can create a popup menu item in IBrowse 2.4 to launch OWB with the current URL. So if you're browsing and you find a page that doesnt view properly... just right click and select "View in OWB.."

Go into Preferences > Settings > GUI > FAB Menus..

Drag the "custom" listview element from the left listview into the right listview. Put it in the "Page" tree.

For name put "View page in OWB.." (or similar wordings)..
Action: Set the cycle gadget to "Command" then in the left string gadget put the path and executable to OWB. On my system its:
Dh1:internet/OWB/OWB

.. then in the right hand string gadget, put your arguments. I have:
--width 1024 --height 768 %u

Bingo, intergration with IBrowse2.4, sortof!

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>OWB and IBrowse 2.4 tip:

Man, thats great

THX

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Wonderful news ! 1000+ * thanks afxgroup !!!

@jahc
Thanks for the tip !


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Jahc
Great tip!

Last edited by tomazkid on 25-Dec-2007 at 02:33 AM.


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Amazing!!! This is a great surprise. It works perfectly. Thank you Andrea.


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Heh, this is a great quote, maybe for a splash screen down the line?

"I had a nice time seeing what my favourite web-sites actually look like"


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Heh, this is a great quote . . .


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Hi,

THIS is THE AMIGA Spirit !#!

Great,thanks to Andrea !

Hint-Hint ->

Contact all that have donate to the "Sputnik OS4 Bounty" and if all accept,
cancel the Bounty and give the Money the REAL sucessor !!

This will a very good task and in the Spirit of Amiga.

I know Andrea dont need a Bounty .. but it is Christmas - and Andrea give us
a VERY NICE GIFT ! [Without a "big Hype"-except others->a full CSS browser in
6 month .. still waiting ....]

So it is more than fair give Andrea a Gift back ;)

And -> It is for OS4 Development!

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Wonder what the AWeb & IBrowse teams will make of this? I hope they can take this and integrate it somehow into their products???????


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@pixie

Sorry, I seem to be mistaken. I was under the impression that the amizilla bounty had been split into 4 doable and equal parts, instead of the now humongous 4-system port. I was also under the impression that it didn't require firefox per say, but rather a browser with similar functionality?

Speaking about browsers, is anyone even working on amizilla? if not why not split the bounty so at least ANY work AT ALL gets done?


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Excellent work. So, modern browsers ARE possible on the Amiga.
I hope we can get some news on IBrowse 3.0 for AOS 4 as thats been on hold for ages ....


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@wegster : There are no specific dependencies because the aim of this engine is to abstract it from dozens of libs, only providing a simple interface.

@afxgroup : Great job ! We were all waiting for a modern browser. I know it is not finished yet but it's a very good Christmas gift !

@all : Instead of a bounty (if afxgroup does not want one), please give support testing it and other programs. We can have this modern browser but we can do much more ! Other bounties can be opened to raise motivation of other programers.

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Thanks Andrea, this came as a real nice surprise to me! Hope to see it evolve fast and that you can continue to stay motivated and have time for further developments
Just made a donation (for MPlayer? Please change the Paypal site to display English text??).

I suggest EVERYBODY who downloaded this software and wants to see it evolve further gives Andrea a little christmas present via his donation link.
It is located on top of his website: AMIGASOFT.NET

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Contact all that have donate to the "Sputnik OS4 Bounty" and if all accept, cancel the Bounty and give the Money the REAL sucessor !!

Not going to happen. The bounty was initiated a long time ago, way before anyone knew there was OWB available to port.
Btw. hardware was just delivered to the author a few weeks back.
The bounty was made specifically for Sputnik as that was the logical application to aim for back then, perhaps that would have been OWB now but that doesn't really matter.

The Bounty wasn't just for any CSS capable webbrowser and it wouldn't be very nice to move money from one project to another, when people have spend time and money on the bounty project and code has been adapted for the OS4 version.

So it's not going to happen, but I expect you made a nice donation for Andrea??

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