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Re: Amiga, Inc. to Focus on Mobile Markets with AmigaDE Posted on 16-Mar-2004 2:02:52
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Kmos are friendly to Genesi? Care to elaborate?  _________________
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Re: Amiga, Inc. to Focus on Mobile Markets with AmigaDE Posted on 16-Mar-2004 2:03:45
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Garry Hare was the guy that Bill Buck was excited about a few months ago |
What's the problem ? The BBRV presented Garry Hare as CEO of Amiga. However, as you now clearly see, he's with KMOS and Bill McEwen is still the CEO of Amiga. _________________ Thomas, the kernel guy
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Re: Amiga, Inc. to Focus on Mobile Markets with AmigaDE Posted on 16-Mar-2004 2:06:02
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The whole thing sounds to me like AInc have been forced to make an out-of-court settlement by selling to a company friendly to Genesi |
What makes you think in any way that KMOS is friendly to Genesi? Just because Mr. Garry Hare was "presented" by Mr. Buck as "CEO of Amiga, Inc" (which clearly seems NOT to be the case)? _________________ Seriously, if you want to contact me do not bother sending me a PM here. Write me a mail
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Re: Amiga, Inc. to Focus on Mobile Markets with AmigaDE Posted on 16-Mar-2004 2:06:43
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Maybe now some of the blinded people who made fun of Bill Buck and the Gary Harre afair (i.e the infamous business card) will think twice about their views on the Truth and Reality... probably not though. *sigh |
Truth and Reality ? So the press release lists Garry Hare as CEO of Amiga ? Uh, no, it doesn't. Nobody denied Garry Hare exists, but he's obviously not CEO of Amiga.
So check your Truth and Reality, please. _________________ Thomas, the kernel guy
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Re: Amiga, Inc. to Focus on Mobile Markets with AmigaDE Posted on 16-Mar-2004 2:10:57
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Maybe now some of the blinded people who made fun of Bill Buck and the Gary Harre afair (i.e the infamous business card) will think twice about their views on the Truth and Reality... probably not though. *sigh |
Lemme see... "Garry Hare, KMOS' CEO"... It somehow doesn't say "Amiga's CEO" - quite the contrary, that still seems to be (in spite of certain individuals claiming otherwise) Bill McEwen...
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Aw, please spare me the honeytalk. _________________ Seriously, if you want to contact me do not bother sending me a PM here. Write me a mail
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Re: Amiga, Inc. to Focus on Mobile Markets with AmigaDE Posted on 16-Mar-2004 2:11:03
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| Lets hope KMOS have a clue and move quickly to clarify their intentions. It would be nice to know what they're going to do.
And wouldnt'cha know it, old Murphy stikes again. The day I finally get round to buying an A1, this happens  _________________ Who do you serve, and who do you trust? - Galen
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Re: Amiga, Inc. to Focus on Mobile Markets with AmigaDE Posted on 16-Mar-2004 2:13:20
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Re: Amiga, Inc. to Focus on Mobile Markets with AmigaDE Posted on 16-Mar-2004 2:13:24
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And wouldnt'cha know it, old Murphy stikes again. The day I finally get round to buying an A1, this happens |
This needn't be a negative thing you know!  _________________
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Re: Amiga, Inc. to Focus on Mobile Markets with AmigaDE Posted on 16-Mar-2004 2:14:07
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KMOS has nothing to do with Genesi. 
I guess that when BBRV smelled the air about an industry veteran like Garry Hare, he wanted to use any scarce info he could find (or make up) to make it seem as if he knew important Amiga related insider info. ("old news" anyone?)
Anyway IMO the deal holds much promise and my congratulations to Garry Hare and his team on acquiring Amiga Inc's AmigaOS rights.  |
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Re: Amiga, Inc. to Focus on Mobile Markets with AmigaDE Posted on 16-Mar-2004 2:15:05
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Yes, but over time I've noticed a trend with the stuff Bill Buck says in public: if he wishes something were true, he just states it as a fact in an off-hand comment, and if that's challenged he either lets his fanboys muddy the issue or says people are just putting words into his mouth. If it does come to pass, he will then say he saw it coming all along. This happened with his casual remark that Garry Hare was the CEO of Amiga Inc and the hacked-together business card (I guess we'll never know if there really was a business card, but it defintely wasn't any of the ones that are online). So either Buck wanted Harre to be the new CEO (so he could have AmigaOS on his terms), or he just wanted for the CEO to be anyone other than McEwen due to personal dislike. Given how ego-driven Buck's management style is, I guess it could just as easily be either. |
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Re: Amiga, Inc. to Focus on Mobile Markets with AmigaDE Posted on 16-Mar-2004 2:17:59
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This needn't be a negative thing you know! |
Yes, it's probably a positive thing - KMOS just can't be any worse than Amiga Inc were - but it's a very major change, so I'll be nibbling my fingernails waiting for more news  _________________ Who do you serve, and who do you trust? - Galen
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Re: Amiga, Inc. to Focus on Mobile Markets with AmigaDE Posted on 16-Mar-2004 2:22:02
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OK. If DaveP, the Friedens and you (ie all people with access to inside info) think it's a good thing, then it probably is. I'll wait for more details to surface, but for the time being I'm angst-free  |
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Re: Amiga, Inc. to Focus on Mobile Markets with AmigaDE Posted on 16-Mar-2004 2:22:17
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I'll be nibbling my fingernails waiting for more news |
It already says that it won't affect the release of OS 4. No need to bite nails  _________________ Seriously, if you want to contact me do not bother sending me a PM here. Write me a mail
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Re: Amiga, Inc. to Focus on Mobile Markets with AmigaDE Posted on 16-Mar-2004 2:23:19
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Yes, but over time I've noticed a trend with the stuff Bill Buck says in public: if he wishes something were true, he just states it as a fact in an off-hand comment, and if that's challenged he either lets his fanboys muddy the issue or says people are just putting words into his mouth. |
Yes, that's what I called "rumour seeding" in the past. The BBRV always works like this. It's the definition of the term FUD: Fear, uncertainty and doubt. Drop a few comments, and there are enough people who pick it up. _________________ Thomas, the kernel guy
"I don't have a frigging clue. I'm norwegian" -- Ole-Egil
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Re: Amiga, Inc. to Focus on Mobile Markets with AmigaDE Posted on 16-Mar-2004 2:26:25
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| Amiga Inc were not a hardware company.. KMOS however.. :) .. I wonder what they have planned. Two questions on my mind are: 1. To what extent will they work with Eyetech? and 2. Will we see a laptop? |
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Re: Amiga, Inc. to Focus on Mobile Markets with AmigaDE Posted on 16-Mar-2004 2:28:35
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Ok no nail biting! Hehe, but what about 4.1, 4.2, 4.x etc? 4.0 will tide me over for another decade or so but then I will be hungry again! |
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Re: Amiga, Inc. to Focus on Mobile Markets with AmigaDE Posted on 16-Mar-2004 2:30:16
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| Just my $.02, but this sounds real fishy to me. It maybe official, but it sounds like one big shell game to me. In my opinion it just fragments things even further. It means that OS4 may very well be the last iteration of AmigaOS ever. That Amiga DE will amount to nothing more than the AA Player. And lastly that the lofty goals for 'OS5' (whether it be an AmigaOS based solution or a Tao intent one) are pretty much moot.
I also can't help but think that the whole "Ask Fleecy" bit (and by extension CAM) was a deception on AI's part. Especially if AmigaOS 4 and AmigaDE are now going there, distinct, seperate ways. And frankly how can they not now that AmigaOS is KMOS and AmigaDE/AA are Amiga Inc.?
As an average 'Amiga' user, I'm much closer now, than I've ever been before, to relegating the Amiga as 'yet another nostalgia platform'. It'll join my Apple II and C128 on the shelf of cool but dead platforms... Unless Amiga Inc., Eyetech, Hyperion, and (now) KMOS start explaining what the hell is really going on!
At this point, I'm more optimistic about the revival of Be (in the form of Zeta or OpenBeOS) than I am about the 'Amiga'. _________________ Unless otherwise explicitly stated, this message is not meant to affirm nor deny, defend nor offend any faction within the 'Amiga' Community.
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Re: Amiga, Inc. to Focus on Mobile Markets with AmigaDE Posted on 16-Mar-2004 2:32:37
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Ok no nail biting! Hehe, but what about 4.1, 4.2, 4.x etc? 4.0 will tide me over for another decade or so but then I will be hungry again! |
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Re: Amiga, Inc. to Focus on Mobile Markets with AmigaDE Posted on 16-Mar-2004 2:34:31
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Re: Amiga, Inc. to Focus on Mobile Markets with AmigaDE Posted on 16-Mar-2004 2:37:30
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That would be too funny...yet perhaps in a sick and twisted sort of way! |
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