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News   News : Review of AmigaOS 4.1 Update 1 / Interview with Simon Archer
   posted by Daff on 23-Feb-2010 15:03:46 (20348 reads)
The magazine Obligement published today the review of AmigaOS 4.1 Update 1, the latest version of the Amiga operating system for AmigaOne (XE, SE, MicroA1), Sam440ep/Flex and Pegasos II.

This review come with an interview with Simon Archer, one of the AmigaOS 4.x developers.


- Review of AmigaOS 4.1 Update 1 (french) :
http://obligement.free.fr/articles/amigaos41_update1.php
- Interview with Simon Archer (french) :
http://obligement.free.fr/articles/itwarcher.php
- Interview with Simon Archer (english) :
http://obligement.free.fr/articles_traduction/itwarcher_en.php
    

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Kicko 
Re: Review of AmigaOS 4.1.1 / Interview with Simon Archer
Posted on 23-Feb-2010 18:38:26
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Thanks for the review. Liked Rigos simple answers :)

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The review is good and objective.
Well done Daff

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Umm, blunt. Good.

His reply to the laptop question, to me, seemed a bit down in the mouth. :[ ....

[quote]
but looking at the response of "the community" towards the efforts of A-Eon, I doubt it will ever happen.[\quote]

.....and I can only put forth my view of their efforts.

Hooray! -- Thank You -- Oh, at last. -- Yes!

Had the A1XE been the X1K we would now be well on our way to becoming a established
platform, even with the lawsuits. But............... 'a new beginning', I'll take it.

So, 'the community' ? Naa.

I gotta put my kids down for a nap now, they're getting cranky.

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I like the last message... :D

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I really liked the AmigaOS4.1.1 review and Rigo's interview. The French to English translation makes Rigos answers even more "interesting".

TrevorD


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@Mechanic Quote:
His reply to the laptop question, to me, seemed a bit down in the mouth. :[ ....

I suspect that his answer was inspired by some of the posts on AmigaWorld.net . For better or worse, the site allows anyone from any camp to post, as long as they don't troll *too* obviously. (I find it hard to imagine he'd have much to complain about on Amigans.net .)

Sadly I have quite a bit of sympathy for his opinion, although I hope he'll learn to ignore the negativity a little better. I also hope the negativity drops as OS4 continues to move forward.


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@Mechanic

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Umm, blunt. Good. His reply to the laptop question, to me, seemed a bit down in the mouth.


Well, those "20 red-hot ones", including the "core-devs"" aren't really famous for tact and tone.


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ad infinitum....


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@TrevorDick

The text that was submitted was exactly as it was when submitted to me, and is 100% as I replied.

There's no bablefish/google translation errors here, the questions are exactly as I got them, and the answers are exactly as I gave them.

I'm not here to make friends, the questions were answered honestly, not to make people happy. 97% of the people in this coomunity can go and catch fire as far as I'm concerned, I know who I'd want holding my extinguisher if push comes to shove.

Last edited by rigo on 24-Feb-2010 at 03:19 AM.


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I like the last message... :D


Me too!


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LOL I also liked the last message and it's somthing I've thought from time to time.
(as I am sure at least half of us have)

he likes the X1000 .... me thinks he would know too!!


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Surely the community can handle another grumpy man.


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@rigo

I looked at this because i'd seen your really helpful answers to questions elsewhere. First time i'd seen mention of codebench. I'll definitely download one of the beta versions to try... and buy if i like it :O)

Sorry to see the negativity getting to you. The hardest thing for someone in your position to see is probably that for every 1 person who moans about something there are 9 quiet people saying nothing....

Rich.

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@Rigo

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There's no bablefish/google translation errors here, the questions are exactly as I got them, and the answers are exactly as I gave them.


Don't hold back now Simon, say what you really mean!

Seriously, a few of my Amiga related articles/reviews have been translated into French for Obligement website. IMHO they do an excellent job. However, I noticed that the online "handmade translation" from French back to English on the Obligement website does not translate the article back to my original (English) article. The translation is OK but not perfect and introduces a few interesting idiosyncrasies .

TrevorD

PS I'll be your friend.

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97% of the people in this coomunity can go and catch fire as far as I'm concerned


Lesson for magazine writers - never interview somebody going through a mid-life crisis!

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@tomazkid

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Well, those "20 red-hot ones", including the "core-devs"" aren't really famous for tact and tone.


Although some of them are pretty cool and very helpful, there are so many bad attitudes and delusions of grandeur amongst certain individuals that it's hard to take any of them seriously... so I'd tend to agree with you here!

Anyway, my opinion would be good review but a poor interview!


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You can also find articles & videos about the Meeting AMIGA REVIVAL FAIR 2009, with Simon ARCHER, here:
AMIGA REVIVAL FAIR 2009

AMIGA REVIVAL FAIR 2009 (2)

AMIGA REVIVAL FAIR 2009 (3)

http://www.amiganorththames.co.uk/

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I'm as open minded as anyone when it comes to Amiga and Amigalike operating systems. I regularly use OS 1.3, 3.1, (3.9 occasionally), AROS, and MorphOS at home, and although I haven't personally used OS 4 yet, I was really impressed by what I saw at Amiga Revival 09 and I would love to give some desk space to an OS 4 machine. The X1000 looks fantastic so far, and I'm looking forward to more info over the coming months.

But when I read things like "97% of the people in this coomunity can go and catch fire as far as I'm concerned", it makes me think twice about laying down the cash for OS4 hardware/software. It just sours the experience.

I can kind of understand the base of the sentiment, after everything that's gone on for the past 10 years, but this open hostility to the potential customer base seems like terrible PR to me.

I know nobody will care what I think, but I just wanted to air the opinion of someone who's about as OS neutral as it gets.

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@Gleng

Totally agree. If that's the attitude, it makes me wonder, why be part of it/bother developing for Amiga? I can't imagine it pays much. It sounded very full of bile and bitterness.

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Is it the French to English translation that makes Simon appear callus?

At the end he tells the Amiga Community to grow up. It's not a bad suggestion. However, earlier in the review he responds to questions by telling the interviewer to go look at another article for his answer. He also says he won't tell which Amiga parts he worked on because he doesn't want the blame. Seems to me he might do well with taking a bit of his own advice.

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