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Re: Hyperion Entertainment unveils dedicated AmigaOS4.0 Webs Posted on 29-Oct-2005 17:17:21
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| Pretty site
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Re: Hyperion Entertainment unveils dedicated AmigaOS4.0 Webs Posted on 29-Oct-2005 17:19:14
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Exactly what I thought.
Could this be the elusive mystery device, but your right it will probably be |
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Re: Hyperion Entertainment unveils dedicated AmigaOS4.0 Webs Posted on 29-Oct-2005 17:30:05
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| Nicely written and laid out site.
It's reassuring to read that the people developing OS4 have a lot of the same things in mind as me about what is good about AmigaOS and bad about other OS's.
Oh, and I had to laugh at this jibe: "Imagine the problems that could be caused if an OS designer lays out the gadgets at the top of a window so that the "close window" gadget is right next to the "minimise/maximise" gadgets, making it very easy to hit by mistake?" |
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Re: Hyperion Entertainment unveils dedicated AmigaOS4.0 Webs Posted on 29-Oct-2005 18:11:57
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| Hyperion great work..site is perfect! and that is what os 4 need..offical webpage whit good look! _________________ --
Amiga x5000 ı o2o ı 4GB RAM ı RadeonRX580 | SBlaster Audigy Fx - AmigaOS4.1 FInal Edition
A1200 sandwich :)
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Re: Hyperion Entertainment unveils dedicated AmigaOS4.0 Webs Posted on 29-Oct-2005 19:22:12
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Re: Hyperion Entertainment unveils dedicated AmigaOS4.0 Webs Posted on 29-Oct-2005 19:55:27
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| Great site!
Keep up the good work Hyperion. You rock. _________________
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Re: Hyperion Entertainment unveils dedicated AmigaOS4.0 Webs Posted on 29-Oct-2005 20:33:25
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| 6629 Views ... Pretty exited crowd aren't we... _________________ AmigaOS or MorphOS on x86 would sell orders of magnitude more than the current, hardware-intensive solutions. And they'd go faster.-- D.Haynie
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Re: Hyperion Entertainment unveils dedicated AmigaOS4.0 Webs Posted on 29-Oct-2005 20:54:17
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I think I'll check moobunny and see if they have started their obligatory 'drooling fanboys' thread yet! Cue banjo music...8') |
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Re: Hyperion Entertainment unveils dedicated AmigaOS4.0 Webs Posted on 29-Oct-2005 21:05:52
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Re: Hyperion Entertainment unveils dedicated AmigaOS4.0 Webs Posted on 29-Oct-2005 21:06:14
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| About the website. I like what was there, but I spotted a few grammatical errors. I don't think I have the time to report them though.
Unfortunately, the site was unbalanced. It was 99% evaluation. Where impartial statistics are concerned, there aren't any, except where it was necessary to back up the text. There is no section of the site devoted to actual specifications or anything like that. If you're going to draw someone in like that (and they did a damn good job of drawing in the curious reader), sooner or later that reader will want to know: "where/when can I buy it?" - "what, exactly, will it run on/what are the specs?" - "how much does it cost?" - and other dry, technical details. No such thing - and no such indication that there will be such a thing - is provided.
I think the website should not have been opened until that missing half had been made and integrated with it.
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yea, you completely ignored him. you just wrote a post on aw, and told us about him, but you completely ignored him. sorry, but i think he rather completely ignored the aos4 site.
sorry, i am a die-hard amiga fan, but this is just an internet site. this won't sell 5 million amigaones, even if i wish it would.
yea, i wish it would, i really do. but let's be realistic. no dancing banana for me, and no offence towards hyperion. nice site. the nicest 'official' one about AOS4. but still, it's just one site among millions.
sometimes this little aw comunity just feels so playgroundish. for gods sake THINK, this is a still an early, or rather to late dream, we won't take over the microsoft offices tomorrow with our 'superior' OS that we love so much... as much as I DO love it, but please, time for a reality check, please wake up.
Don't go bananas for a thing like this, it makes us look more than a little silly...
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Raise your hand if you -ever- loved the amiga just because it was popular - or if you consider popularity a virtue at all.
No takers?
The people who like the amiga like it because it is GOOD, and they know it.
The people who abandoned the amiga for good, genuinely DO NOT WANT IT TO SUCCEED. There is an issue involved here far broader than the immediate concretes involved - a philosophical issue. If one betrays their ideals - the things they consider good in life and feel most strongly about, in the name of being "practical" or "conformist" - it is no wonder they induce willful blindness not to see those things triumph. They've let other people define their values instead of using their private judgement.
Those people loved the amiga - I don't use that word lightly, I mean they genuinely LOVED it just as I still do: as a passion, as a hobby, as an ideal, as something they consider worthy of taking up hundreds of irrecoverable hours of time in their life because that's what life was for them. These people have betrayed all that, and now they want to laugh at (and ultimately destroy, "spiritually") those people who won't join them in their cowardice - because those people's enduring existence and loyalty to the amiga is a reproachful slap across the face, a mirror exposing their own inability to hold onto a value in the face of opposition.
I haven't used an amiga in years (I've been using Windows), but I've never decided that because the amiga has been outpaced technologically, it has ceased to be good - as if the time I had spent enjoying using one had never existed in the first place - as if the virtues I had seen in it were childish naivity that I needed to grow out of. I haven't betrayed anything, I'm simply waiting.
Nor did I place any importance on whether I'd see the amiga be popular again. I would love for it to be so. But it wasn't necessary in order for me to justify my love for the computer, in the past or the future. I don't seek a justification for my values in other people.
My passion was always there and always will be, whatever happens to the platform in the future. I don't think that the amiga needs to be popular in order to be good, not in the fundamental sense. Granted, in order to deal with things as they are, in order to achieve certain goals, in order to be compatible, you may have to use a lesser operating system (though OS4 bridges almost every gap into the future that I can see, save games). And we may continue needing to do so even when having OS4, turning to our Windows/Linux boxes to achieve certain, specific tasks. But that is no reason to give up on the Amiga.
Even if it were to lack every piece of desirable modern software, it can still be admired as a piece of art, as an embodiment of the way computers ought to be and might have been. It still serves as inspiration.
The person I quoted above isn't laughing - he's afraid of being laughed at. Who should feel shame? And who does?
I've loved Amiga's throughout all my school years. I lacked the courage then to reveal what I was passionate about. Computer geeks were themselves a rare breed (especially at primary school age), but as an amiga lover, I was a geek among geeks, a freak of passion that nobody could understand. I don't lack that courage anymore, and neither should anybody else. Last edited by soft on 29-Oct-2005 at 11:32 PM.
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Re: Hyperion Entertainment unveils dedicated AmigaOS4.0 Webs Posted on 29-Oct-2005 21:06:15
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Yup. It should be up by now. Whats worse than quit a bad habbit. _________________ AmigaOS or MorphOS on x86 would sell orders of magnitude more than the current, hardware-intensive solutions. And they'd go faster.-- D.Haynie
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Re: Hyperion Entertainment unveils dedicated AmigaOS4.0 Webs Posted on 29-Oct-2005 21:11:13
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No such thing - and no such indication that there will be such a thing - is provided. |
Oops. It actually does indicate such a thing on the front page. My bad. |
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Re: Hyperion Entertainment unveils dedicated AmigaOS4.0 Webs Posted on 29-Oct-2005 21:18:50
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I think you are both right. (you and spotUp)
This is our dilemma we want Amiga to succeed and come back again (kick everybodys ass) but at the same time we know it's not possible (to kick MS ass). (yeah I know about David and Goliath, but I also know Santa is my Dad )
At the least we should be allowed to be happy when we see things going our way for once. We are heading the right way that's all I can say. _________________ AmigaOS or MorphOS on x86 would sell orders of magnitude more than the current, hardware-intensive solutions. And they'd go faster.-- D.Haynie
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Re: Hyperion Entertainment unveils dedicated AmigaOS4.0 Webs Posted on 29-Oct-2005 21:25:17
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I think you are both right. (you and spotUp)
This is our dilemma we want Amiga to succeed and come back again (kick everybodys ass) but at the same time we know it's not possible (to kick MS ass). |
Kick MS ass - what for? Sure, it would be justice delivered, but it's not really that important. It's more important that I continue to enjoy the amiga (and I'll be buying OS4 and a machine to run it on as soon as I can) and not give a damn what other people think. I'll keep a PC around for when I can't avoid having to use one.
While I'm thinking about it, I do think OS4 will be more popular than I originally anticipated - partly due to the things said on the website that is the subject of this thread. I think Hyperion will end up supporting more platforms as time goes by - it would be suicidal from a business standpoint not to. I don't think it will -just- be a machine for the fans, though it won't be a great deal more. That's my estimate, but as I said, I don't really mind how popular it is so long as I can enjoy it. |
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Re: Hyperion Entertainment unveils dedicated AmigaOS4.0 Webs Posted on 29-Oct-2005 21:49:36
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Good points, but I have a feeling (hope? dream?) that this site will develop further as the software becomes more available. As it stands at the minute, it's not really actively marketed is it? So the only people who're dying to buy the software (but can't) are us loyal drooling fanboys _________________
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Re: Hyperion Entertainment unveils dedicated AmigaOS4.0 Webs Posted on 29-Oct-2005 21:50:54
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| I've just added the following to my E-mails I send
"I wrote this in Yam 2.4 Beta on my Amiga One runing Beta OS4, yep, that's a whole lotta beta. And if the Amiga Reference has got you interested: http://os4.hyperion-entertainment.biz/"
Very nice site. Shame there's no information on how to get the thing...
But then that's not the OS developers problem is it?
Well, it's their problem, but not their fault..!
Great site though. _________________ Rage quited 29th May 2011
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Re: Hyperion Entertainment unveils dedicated AmigaOS4.0 Webs Posted on 29-Oct-2005 23:15:36
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| I know it's been said before, but I'd like to say it again myself for emphasis: the images should click to enlarge. People automatically expect it and I found myself unconsciously clicking on the images several times only to have nothing happen. |
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Re: Hyperion Entertainment unveils dedicated AmigaOS4.0 Webs Posted on 29-Oct-2005 23:30:34
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| It looks like AmigaOS4.0 is headed to replace AmigaDE as the AmigaAnywhere platform. It is definately set to be a greater platform if that is the case. |
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Re: Comments regarding the Hyperion OS4 site Posted on 29-Oct-2005 23:42:18
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| Hello everyone!
I haven't written any posts to this or any other Amiga sites before. However, I have been following the Amiga situation for as long as I can remember - I check the Amiga news sites regularly, I've been to the AmiGBG fair a couple of times and my Amiga 1230 still resides on my desk, eventough it has gone a long time since I used it. During the years, I have adopted a wait-and-see policy towards the Amiga situation.
The launch of the OS4 Hyperion website raised my eyebrows a bit however. 'It can't be long now until the final OS4 release' I tell my self, though still remembering past promises from years gone by. Anyway, it feels like a good time to post a couple of comments.
The website looks great and people have been commenting on that enough by now, so I won't go deeper into that. I miss some information though. Such as: Where can one buy OS4.0 and when? (OK, when it's done. But people outside Amiga land don't understand that). What hardware must one have? Where can one buy the hardware? What does the future hold (OS5 etc. This is important!)? What key applications are there (word processing, gfx, web, mail etc.)? Coders would probably appreciate some more info on development tools and such. People visiting the site do want to know these kind of things!
Running the risk of getting off topic: What is the state of the efforts on porting Firefox and OpenOffice and other main stream open source apps to the AmigaOS? Being kind of an 'outsider' I feel that the no 1 hindrance in AmigaOS (re)adoption is the lack of key software one is used to having on other platforms. Firefox/Mozilla/similar and Java being some of the most crucial apps I guess. Haven't I read something about a GTK/Qt wrapper for MUI/ReAction btw?
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In addition a set of libraries and OS level functions in development are bringing AmigaOS4.0 closer than ever to full POSIX compliance for easier porting and cross-development of applications to and from the *nix world. |
Sounds like a smart move. Seems like someone has been doing some thinking!
Also, what does Amiga Inc. say about Hyperion marketing AmigaOS4 as an OS suited for embedded products? Sounds partly like a competitor to AmigaDE, to me.
I hope the post OS4 era will be a certain one!
Good luck Hyperion!Last edited by Quarl on 29-Oct-2005 at 11:50 PM. Last edited by Quarl on 29-Oct-2005 at 11:47 PM.
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Re: Hyperion Entertainment unveils dedicated AmigaOS4.0 Webs Posted on 30-Oct-2005 0:00:21
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| Good work Hyperion! Great to see OS4 come out of the closet. Some very interseting stuff on the site. Pleased to see it is aiming at the curious and uninitated, reaching out beyopnd the community. The suggestion that they are interested in porting to other platforms and the scalability was very interesting. I hope this means there will be hardware available os4 is released.
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