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Re: Project: TIMBERWOLF - Bounty for already in progress Ami
Posted on 29-Sep-2009 19:20:39
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| @Birbo
And I've had enough with all silency and surprises. I want more announcements.
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Re: Project: TIMBERWOLF - Bounty for already in progress Ami
Posted on 29-Sep-2009 19:22:53
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| It's just a pet project Thom and me have been doing in our spare time |
You actually have spare time? 
Excellent news anyway, donation made.
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Re: Project: TIMBERWOLF - Bounty for already in progress Ami
Posted on 29-Sep-2009 19:24:54
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Timberwolf is the project name of the AmigaOS port of the Firefox web browser (for legal reasons it cannot be called Firefox).
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What are these legal reasons ?
I'm curious...
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Re: Project: TIMBERWOLF - Bounty for already in progress Ami
Posted on 29-Sep-2009 19:26:13
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Re: Project: TIMBERWOLF - Bounty for already in progress Ami
Posted on 29-Sep-2009 19:28:59
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Timberwolf is the project name of the AmigaOS port of the Firefox web browser (for legal reasons it cannot be called Firefox).
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What are these legal reasons ?
I'm curious...
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Similar to the ones that make Debain call their version IceWeasel probably.
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Re: Project: TIMBERWOLF - Bounty for already in progress Ami
Posted on 29-Sep-2009 19:34:51
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| /me now remembers a post on an aw.net thread where Rogue said that he was "tempted to port Firefox himself" :)
BTW now I can also understand why OWB hasn't been updated since last June, makes sense with this ongoing port.
Good work Hans-Joerg and Thomas!
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Re: Project: TIMBERWOLF - Bounty for already in progress Ami
Posted on 29-Sep-2009 19:38:26
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| WOW - this is great news !
I really appreciate the effort guys.
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The only problems I have with Firefox is that some plugins use extensive javascript/RSS processing that temporarily freeze main Firefox page loading/interaction.
I heard installing fresh Firefox is recommended rather than updating.
But seriously, this is very exciting and pleasing news.
Where did the name "Timberwolf" come from ?
Someone with a wood and wolf fetish ?
(ducks) 
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Re: Project: TIMBERWOLF - Bounty for already in progress Ami
Posted on 29-Sep-2009 19:41:28
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Three cheers, er, beers to the Bothers. Nice work! And the very ambitious project is yet to come. Awsome.
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Re: Project: TIMBERWOLF - Bounty for already in progress Ami
Posted on 29-Sep-2009 19:45:01
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Could the Amizilla bounty be switched to this one?
It's a big bounty, and it was made for Firefox... so!
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It's what I was thinking, AmiZilla bounty should be splitted in case of porting on one or more Amiga flavour...
Good Work brothers Last edited by ShInKurO on 29-Sep-2009 at 07:47 PM.
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Re: Project: TIMBERWOLF - Bounty for already in progress Ami
Posted on 29-Sep-2009 19:47:04
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| @asymetrix,
I still think JAVA may be the ambitious one to come.
Timber starts a fire and a wolf is bigger and more ambitious than a Fox.
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Re: Project: TIMBERWOLF - Bounty for already in progress Ami
Posted on 29-Sep-2009 19:47:58
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| What are these legal reasons ? |
Probably same reason why it is called iceweasel under debian. |
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Re: Project: TIMBERWOLF - Bounty for already in progress Ami
Posted on 29-Sep-2009 19:49:01
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| some interesting screenshot of Mozilla
Timberwolf screenshot gui:
This is Shiretoko
and this Firefox "shiretoko codename"
very interesting..
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Re: Project: TIMBERWOLF - Bounty for already in progress Ami
Posted on 29-Sep-2009 19:57:55
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Re: Project: TIMBERWOLF - Bounty for already in progress Ami
Posted on 29-Sep-2009 20:29:23
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| I'm sorry - what are these screenshots about? Are you kiddin'?
Please make some screenshots of Acid Browser test showing a good result. This is what matters.
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Re: Project: TIMBERWOLF - Bounty for already in progress Ami
Posted on 29-Sep-2009 20:41:14
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| To be clear Seiya think that this is a fake news
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Re: Project: TIMBERWOLF - Bounty for already in progress Ami
Posted on 29-Sep-2009 20:50:42
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Come on, no one stated the Friedens had a fully working Firefox ready for release?
I will of course post Acid browser test screenshots when Timberwolf is ready for that.
Until then you will have to do with a screenshot showing XULRunner (Firefox engine) ported. And the Firefox GUI (with some errors) native on OS4.1
That is the current state of Timberwolf and there's of course still a long way to go before a finished polished Firefox hits the Amiga. But what you see in the pics I posted is already a major achievement and a big step on the way, whether you like it or not.
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Re: Project: TIMBERWOLF - Bounty for already in progress Ami
Posted on 29-Sep-2009 20:52:26
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Similar to the ones that make Debian call their version Iceweasel probably.
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Well, according to the Debian policy, everything should be opened, and this include graphics,.. as Firefox is a trademark and the Logo isn't free, they decided to rename it...
I think this has nothing to do with the reason why it is renamed for AmigaOS 4... As far as I know, open source and trademark free has never been a goal for Hyperion ;)
On the contrary... Everything is closed, including the hardware which comes with a dongle, but this is another story.
Any more guess about this reason ?
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Re: Project: TIMBERWOLF - Bounty for already in progress Ami
Posted on 29-Sep-2009 20:52:32
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Relax, these are very early days yet. However, it's a huge step in itself that it actually compiles! Plenty more work to do, yes, but there's already a fair bit of progress. And it's in the hands of two guys who are known for actually releasing quality software So I'd be confident over the next while that this project will bear some fruit.
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Re: Project: TIMBERWOLF - Bounty for already in progress Ami
Posted on 29-Sep-2009 21:02:18
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| Well, Firefox and the logos are indeed trademarks, so maybe the reason is that Firefox only allow the logo/name to be used on officially endorsed ports. I doubt they'd want anyone downloading the source and releasing their own shoddy version of Firefox, tainting the name... Last edited by Daedalus on 29-Sep-2009 at 09:05 PM.
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Re: Project: TIMBERWOLF - Bounty for already in progress Ami
Posted on 29-Sep-2009 21:12:20
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The reason? Well, to put ants in your pants for starters?
The real reason is maybe to make OS4.x a more attractive choice than MorphOS or AROS?!
Is this not a given?
I would have made the same decision if I had the chance. Especially after putting in so many hours of work basically for free and being in their situation (developing OS4)..
EDIT: Btw great work Friedens! Faster hardware soon and I'm back owning OS4  Last edited by Samwel on 29-Sep-2009 at 09:14 PM.
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