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Software News   Software News : OS4 prerelease update #3 available
   posted by EntilZha on 14-Jun-2005 14:29:31 (46426 reads)
Leuven, Belgium. 13 June, 2005.

Hyperion Entertainment announces the immediate availability of the final intermediate update of Amiga OS 4.0 prior to its full commercial release later this year.


An overview of the added functionality:

* New Kernel
* New IDE devices
* New Picasso96/Graphics and monitor drivers
* Warp3D V51 (Including support for Voodoo 3, Voodoo 4/5, and Radeon 7x00)
* WarpUp support
* New Shell and updated shell commands
* Update reaction classes and new intuition
* New Roadshow TCP/IP stack and updated eth3com.device
* All new version of the Sirion USB stack and usbprinter.device
* Updated datatypes
* Updated Preferences programs
* Updated Locale
* And much more

Registered users of Amiga OS 4.0 can download update 3 from Hyperion Entertainment's website.


Hyperion Entertainment and the Amiga OS 4.0 development team wish to thank you for your continued patience and support which we hope will be rewarded in a few months time.
    

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Re: OS4 prerelease update #3 available
Posted on 15-Jun-2005 13:36:10
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@Mr_Capehill

yes i cold booted ... i turned the power off. thats about as cold of a boot as you can get... but i'm still stuck on the old exec.library (51.19)

btw where on the disk does this library hide?
a find can not find it

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Re: OS4 prerelease update #3 available
Posted on 15-Jun-2005 13:58:49
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@deathcon

I believe that exec.library is part of the kickstart/ stuff, rather than an actual library. You could manually re-extract the kickstart files from the base.lha file, just in case they didn't extract correctly.

Also, did you choose to install the new kicklayout? The main kickstart file which contains exec has a new name post-update3, so if you're still using the old kicklayout you'd be loading the file which contains the old exec instead of the new one.

Try viewing sys:kickstart/kicklayout and check to see if it mentions PCIGraphics.card. If it does not but does mention AmigaOne.card then backup the kicklayout file and extract the new one from the installer directory (it has it's own lha file IIRC).

Last edited by madtrekker on 15-Jun-2005 at 01:59 PM.

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Re: OS4 prerelease update #3 available
Posted on 15-Jun-2005 14:00:07
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@deathcon: in the kernel ;)

Sounds like something has gone very wrong in your installation! :(

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Re: OS4 prerelease update #3 available
Posted on 15-Jun-2005 14:00:57
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sorry for my post in german, because bad english.

ich hoffe Rogue liest mit.
Erstmal vielen Dank für das Update. Nur leider funktionieren hier einige Dinge nicht mehr.

Turboprint druckt nichtmehr über den par-port. Shot

Quake1 sieht aus, als wenn es eine vertikale Zeilenverdoppelung hat, also richtig "zermatscht". Shot

Desweiteren klappen einige Demos nicht mehr, weil der Screen nicht zu öffnen ist.

Ich habe eine Radeon 9100 und mit dem Update2 klappte das alles hervorragend.
Habe mich auch mit Hilfe eines Kumpels (der des englischen mächtig ist) exakt an die readme zur Installation gehalten.

Hat jemand ähnliche Schwierigkeiten?

regards
McFly

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Last edited by McFly on 15-Jun-2005 at 02:02 PM.
Last edited by McFly on 15-Jun-2005 at 02:01 PM.


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Re: OS4 prerelease update #3 available
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@McFly

Ich antworte dir privat.

@all

I'll reply in private mail


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Anonymous 
Re: OS4 prerelease update #3 available
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McFly

It is not a problem.

Dave.

 
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Re: OS4 prerelease update #3 available
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@Rogue

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@all

I'll reply in private mail


When? I still have not recieved it.

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Re: OS4 prerelease update #3 available
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@Rogue

Hmm... don't you mean xadmaster.library ?

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Re: OS4 prerelease update #3 available
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@Rogue and Wiffy

thanks a lot


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Re: OS4 prerelease update #3 available
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Hmm... don't you mean xadmaster.library ?


*sigh* exactly, xadmaster.library.


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Re: OS4 prerelease update #3 available
Posted on 15-Jun-2005 16:20:19
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Thank Hyperion!

Excellent update.

Wordworth 7 now works for me! Which is great news., turboprint now works!
Even better!
(well it crashesjust before ejecting the first page (on hp815) but it
used to crash straight away, and ignore errors allows it to complete the print)

AWeb disabled gadgets have taken on a new look, but strangely the developement
version (with boopsi labels instead of images for the gadgets) doesn't get
the new look.


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Re: OS4 prerelease update #3 available
Posted on 15-Jun-2005 17:11:41
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broadblues: do u got a crashlog regarding your turboprint crash?

i use 7.50 here and i have no problems.


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Re: OS4 prerelease update #3 available
Posted on 15-Jun-2005 17:34:56
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From: me To: you

DJDR has been on #amigaworld with PR3 instal issues, and it seems he has been getting a black screen just after the kickstart loading bar has gone. thinking this was a gfx issue, i asked him to to use the boot cd in debug mode to get in and alter his prefs.

i tried helping him boot from his release 1 boot cd, but he got the same black screen again. can anyone shed some light on this ?

A1XE/800 with radeon 7000, and his HD and cdrom are on his sii ide card, boot order is cdrom before hd.

thx :D


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Just installed the update without any probs. Awsome!

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Re: OS4 prerelease update #3 available
Posted on 15-Jun-2005 17:45:32
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@rogue

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Not really, no. Did you upgrade to the latest firmwware? What does the "version" command in U-Boot tell you?


U-Boot 1.1.1 March 3 2005 16:42:53

Interrupt settings in U-Boot are 9,10,11,7 all level, AGP is enabled as 2x, sideband (I tried turning sideband off but it didn't make any difference)

Thanks
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Re: OS4 prerelease update #3 available
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Probably a good plan. The way it works at the moment the U-Boot prefs is pretty dangerous. It should at least have a disclaimer saying that settings aren't loaded from U-Boot and that all settings saved not just ones changed.

Personally, I voted to not being able to set uboot env vars from OS4 at all. Sure it is convenient but users are generally used to being able to fiddle with things and not worry so much about damaging their config that they can't boot. With the UBoot prefs utility, you can do a heck of a lot of damage very quickly and you may not notice until the next time you do a cold boot and your system won't boot up. I prefer to force users to set the config vars at uboot time (via menu or shell) so implicitly they know that they are fiddling with low level stuff and they must be extra careful. IMHO of course.


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Re: OS4 prerelease update #3 available
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@Rogue / Entilzha

Just played around the GUI prefs again. And frankly it still frustrates me quite a lot. It does a lot, but it's defenitly not userfriendly at all. Even the very limited standard Windows (the redmond OS) GUI prefs is more user friendly.

Here's some suggestions:

How about just skipping the preview button altogether, since it's really not a very good idea to have to click there for every little change you want to do, and instead have an inline real time updated GUI preview? Or perhaps in a secondary window that reflects all changes the user does in real time.

Plus if you click an element in the preview you get sent to where you're supposed to be able to change that element. I'm still trying to figure out how to change the listbrowser background (like the subsystem list) and I just can't find it. A proper clickable preview would have solved that easely.

And everywhere where you can enter an image/texture/gradient. Why not show that texture/gradient there in the main gui window directly (Look at how MUI does it for reference)? Just the same for everywhere you can select a font, why not render that font right beside where you can click to select another one?

And in "styles" where you select bitmap set. Render all bitmaps directly on that page. Best thing would be if you could arrow up/down and the preview shows different bitmaps sets in realtime, but that might not be possible due to the random file system coupling.

If you could drag&drop texture/image/gradient settings between elements and a clipboard like feature then we'd really be talking.

And generally for all prefs programs. They could be helped by having small 'help' buttons beside all different options that when clicked opens up a popup window with some explanatory text. Boring to add but never the less does a lot for user friendlyness.

And as always, all GUI prefs should be in one program, not in 5-6 or so.

Amiga stood for smart and easy to use GUI's once, right? :)

/Björn

 
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Re: OS4 prerelease update #3 available
Posted on 15-Jun-2005 20:39:50
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Poster: redfox Date: 14-Jun-2005 16:39:18

Update 3 completed on my µA1-C.

Sheesh that 640X480 4? colour Workbench screen looked awful ...

I was very happy to see my 1024X768 32 bit Radeon settings show up again.


I printed out the instructions and followed them exactly. I believe the update on my A1 XE went fine. When I rebooted I received that odd colored screen. Then I went to reattached the screen setting and I found that I only had three resolutions to choose from:
320x240
640x480
800x600
I selected 800x600, but where are the others? How do I get them back?


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Re: OS4 prerelease update #3 available
Posted on 15-Jun-2005 20:55:48
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btw where on the disk does this library hide?


In sys:kickstart, there's a file named "kernel". This contains the kernel libraries: exec.library, utility.library, expansion.library, and some other little stuff.

If you still have exec 51.19, you don't have the update installed.

Did you change the installation path when you installed the update ?


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@ Orgin

Thanks, sent to the dev list


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