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Hardware News   Hardware News : Commodore USA's Final Challenge to the Community
   posted by BigBentheAussie on 19-Dec-2011 19:44:52 (48303 reads)
Commodore USA has a final challenge for this community that could enable them to have a new Commodore AMIGA with absolutely any of the features they want. We are serious about this, and we hope you will also take this offer seriously too, and contribute positively to the fruition of the Commodore AMIGA dream.

Allow me to outline our final challenge to the community, and how we can work together towards a unifying goal.
I have a list of obligations for the parties.


1. The community must definitively decide, through polls or whatever, what exactly it wants a Commodore AMIGA from Commodore USA to be.
2. Commodore USA will build and/or sell all product/s that will bear the official Commodore AMIGA brand.
3. Commodore USA will sell the first batch of a particular product AT (THEIR) COST to pre-paid customers only.
4. A minimum of 500 customers must pre-pay the entire amount in an independent account at a trusted institution (at the community's discretion) for the project to begin.
5. Commodore USA will negotiate for all required technology, be it software or hardware, and such costs will be divided by the amount of customers in the initial batch. So the more that join in, the lower the overall cost.
6. Commodore USA will outline all the costs, in as much detail as they are able to, before any customers make payment.
7. Commodore USA is ONLY paid on completion of the work to the satisfaction of the 500+ first batch customers, when the final product is ready to ship.
8. On project commencement, Commodore USA will provide monthly project updates until completion.
9. If Commodore USA does not perform the required work in 6 months of the project commencement date, then the 500+ customers have the option to withdraw immediately for a full refund of their prepayment.
10. Commodore USA reserve the right to affix a margin, at their discretion, to future sales of the product/s, past the initial batch.
11. The community will nominate two independent representatives or leaders who will liaise more closely with Commodore USA and report back to the community.
12. Sometimes negotiations require an NDA, that would limit public consumption of exact costs. In such circumstances that an NDA is required, the two nominated representatives of the community, who will also be under NDA, can independently verify such costs.
13. There will be no advertising of the product or its components by Commodore USA until project commencement.
14. In the meantime, Commodore USA will potentially continue with its current x86 based Commodore AMIGA plans, that will co-exist with the community's desired Commodore AMIGA branded product/s.

Warmest Regards,
Leo Nigro
Chief Technology Officer
Commodore USA, LLC
lan@commodoreusa.net
www.CommodoreUSA.net
    

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phoenixkonsole 
Re: Commodore USA's Final Challenge to the Community
Posted on 19-Dec-2011 21:05:44
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somehow..... interesting.
You will get a mail soon.

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kas1e 
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4. A minimum of 500 customers must pre-pay the entire amount in an independent account at a trusted institution (at the community's discretion) for the project to begin.


Unreal.

As for whole topic, in general, its all in the best case will be as with x1000 from HW side, but you also need aos4, mos or aros on it. With aos4 / mos you have no choice (as they will not give you permission most luckyly), and for AROS cusa byitself didn't want it. Putting linux on any new HW will make no sense the same as putting linux now on x86 HW.

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afxgroup 
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Posted on 19-Dec-2011 21:15:37
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Again with this story..... Can i have a coupon? or a T-Shirt in the meanwhile??

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kas1e 
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@afxgroup
Quote:

Again with this story..... Can i have a coupon? or a T-Shirt in the meanwhile??


:)) only amiga :)

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SACC-dude 
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Nope, this is just a FINAL challenge (read) next week we'll have the t-shirt challenge.

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xeron 
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what if "the community" decide that what they really want is for C=USA to go away?

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cha05e90 
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Can i have a coupon? or a T-Shirt in the meanwhile??

Mate, this is 2011! I want a coupon for a T-Shirt...

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m0lebrain 
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ONLY AMIGGAAAAAAAAAA

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afxgroup 
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Mate, this is 2011! I want a coupon for a T-Shirt


Uhm.. you are right.. sorry.. i'm getting old!

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Birbo 
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Posted on 19-Dec-2011 21:27:43
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ohhhh my god...

is this real?

It is a bad joke... - bad taste, really bad taste.

Mr. Nigro - please do not post any more in this forum - I don't like this kind of making claims, before you know, what the community is thinking about you.

First listen - then ask. Understand?

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BigBentheAussie 
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Posted on 19-Dec-2011 21:32:47
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We listened...Just decide what you want....and hey presto....you'll get it.
We're wishing you a Merry Christmas.

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madmalkav 
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"through polls or whatever" is undoubtfully my favourite way to decide when I will prepay for a product without warranties I will receive it.

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BigBentheAussie 
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Posted on 19-Dec-2011 21:34:44
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The community needs to take some responsibility for making this product decision.
We're basically saying....decide....and we'll do it.
Exactly what you want.....and we'll give it to you at cost....and we won't take your money until your satisfied and it's completed.....In six months of having decided.
Think of it as a kickstarter for the Amiga community.

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afxgroup 
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Posted on 19-Dec-2011 21:38:53
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We can decide.. but not with OUR money... no more..

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@ BigBentheAussie

My dream is a commodore amiga powerpc with os4

example:

Freescale

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kas1e 
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Posted on 19-Dec-2011 21:40:21
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@BigBentheAussie

Writing of new OS today will take not just years, but ten years, 20 years. And many programmers. Not one, not two, even not 10. So, you can't give to amiga-community any kind of OS (its just unpossible in such timeline). As for HW, all the HW already done. A lot for PPC, and a lot for x86. Even if you will do now cheap ppc notebook, you still not have rights to port mos or aos4 to it, what mean, you again out of luck.

Imho there is nothing what you can do. Except, that only spend your money on bountyes, but there will be no profit, of course. Or just support one, or another current way (what mean, that there again will be no profit in end).

And of course, asking for pre-pays from your side and with your currnent reputation , its just unreal. Even if your reputation will be good, i think all those amiga users , even blind fans , are tired with all that stuff about pre-pays and waiting for years for dunno what.

Last edited by kas1e on 19-Dec-2011 at 09:44 PM.

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andres 
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@BigBentheAussie
seriously, Amiga community want LESS confusion and more clarity: we do not need Linux or Windows "Amiga branded PCs", a fact that will rise confusion and will end up to dilute further the value of the Amiga trademark.

What remains of the original Amiga computers is AmigaOS, and if C=USA wants to sell Amiga branded machines, you must find a way to collaborate with Hyperion.
An Amiga without AmigaOS is a fake.

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nimrod7 
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"Any customer can have any kind of new Amiga that he wants so long as it is x86 with CommodoreOS"

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I want a powerful 68k compatible hardware like the NatAmi! With retro case too.

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Wol 
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Posted on 19-Dec-2011 21:54:41
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Well this does seem to good to be true........

Assuming it is people, ye better get your serious thinking heads on, This will possibly be the LAST
time a company with some serious recourses will do anything like this.
Maybe they can make a deal with Hyperion; Commodore does the hardware/ Hyperion the software...

Ya never know, stranger things have never happened .......



Wol.

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