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Re: Commodore USA's Final Challenge to the Community Posted on 20-Dec-2011 1:09:38
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| @ Leo:
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If 500 people want it. Sure. Everything is on the table. |
However not from scratch if you want a reasonable time frame, unless you look at my previous post. _________________ AmigaOne X1000, A4000(T), A3000, A2000, A1200(T), A1200, A500, CD32, Minimig+ARM, FPGA Arcade, Chameleon64, C-One, C128, C128D, C64C, C64, VIC-20, CBM 8032, CBM4032, Efika, Ultimate64
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Re: Commodore USA's Final Challenge to the Community Posted on 20-Dec-2011 1:10:06
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| @ Leo
I like the mini tower best (though I prefer white)....always loved the Amiga checkmark _________________ ____________________________ c64-2sids, A1000, A1200T-060@50(finally working!),A4000-CSMKIII ! My Master Miggies- Amiga 1000 & AmigaOne X1000 ! mancave-ramblings X1000 I BELIEVE
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Re: Commodore USA's Final Challenge to the Community Posted on 20-Dec-2011 1:23:26
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| @Darrin We will talk to whichever party is required to make things happen. _________________ Leo Nigro, CTO Commodore USA, LLC Opinions expressed are my own and not those of C= USA. Commodore/AMIGA "Beautiful, High-Performance, Home Computers for Creativity and Entertainment."
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Re: Commodore USA's Final Challenge to the Community Posted on 20-Dec-2011 1:26:11
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| @BigBentheAussie
I like the basic design of the Amiga 1000 & Amiga 2000 desktop cases. But are these going to be available for FlexATX Form Factor &/or original A2000 &A1000's? I dont like the large LED readout. another 5.25 drive bay would be a lot more practical - a very small readout near the base of the case may look good if people really want that. The amiga name is also too big & I would much prefer it in white & without the color strip. Last edited by Tpod on 20-Dec-2011 at 01:27 AM.
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Re: Commodore USA's Final Challenge to the Community Posted on 20-Dec-2011 1:44:34
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| i know that this is a way to reach out. however basing business decisions on polls is not a responsible way of handing affairs
you can read the forums and guess what everyone wants. if anything makes business sense pursue it. if not don't. your business should not revolve around the few people here.
because of past transgressions of other amiga businesses the chances of this offer being successful is slim. matter of fact this is really a slap in the face to all the people that have been taken in by past offers they lost money on.
maybe you all should rethink this. _________________ Win•dows: n. A thirty-two bit extension and graphical shell to a sixteen-bit patch to an eight-bit operating system originally coded for a four-bit microprocessor which was written by a two-bit company that can't stand one bit of competition.
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Re: Commodore USA's Final Challenge to the Community Posted on 20-Dec-2011 1:56:57
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Re: Commodore USA's Final Challenge to the Community Posted on 20-Dec-2011 1:59:07
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| @BigBenTheAussie
Thanks for trying to reach out one more time. My advice, for what it's worth...
The first thing you need to do is to make it absolutely clear that you're not asking for prepayment as such. There are many of us who've gotten burned over the years so we're not exactly receptive to the idea of prepaying for anything. What I suggest you do is get the requirements from the community, and then set up a project with (the real) Kickstarter. You'll benefit from the respectability that Kickstarter provides, we'll know that if the project goes belly-up we won't get ripped off (again), and if the design is attractive enough you'll get more (perhaps way more) than 500 sales out of it.
The next thing you need to do is tell us the sort of things we can expect from a 6 months development period. Many of us have no idea of the kind of timeframes involved with creating a new product. You must have some idea of the sort of things that you can and can't realistically do in that timespan, it would help if you shared that. Otherwise all you'll end up with is a bunch of people ####ed off at you for not being able to deliver on something you may have never had a chance to.
Finally, whatever you release needs to have an OS, and the community has said a resounding NO to Linux (at least in the form of a standard distro - something like Amithlon maybe more palatable). Since the gatekeeper there is Hyperion, you should work with them to secure, if not their OS, at least the naming rights to distribute either OS3 or AROS (x86 or 68k). Without that you can't really call what you'll be producing an Amiga. A joint statement with Hyperion saying that you've reached a deal of some kind will help enormously. |
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Re: Commodore USA's Final Challenge to the Community Posted on 20-Dec-2011 2:04:16
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| it must be compatible with amigaos 4 that's all. take contact with hyperion and try to work hand in hand. if your new amiga doesn't have amigaos, it's not an amiga, it's a pc with a sticker. and i would like a sequel of great amiga game on it !!!! shadow of the beast 4 or things like that...turrican 4 or 3d a new lotus ...etc... etc.. Last edited by turrican33 on 20-Dec-2011 at 02:07 AM. Last edited by turrican33 on 20-Dec-2011 at 02:05 AM.
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Re: Commodore USA's Final Challenge to the Community Posted on 20-Dec-2011 2:06:14
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| It's easy, give me the new A1200 in a Fantasy case! PPC-based and runing AOS 4 with a Radeon HD chip on it. |
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Re: Commodore USA's Final Challenge to the Community Posted on 20-Dec-2011 2:09:53
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If they contracted Hyperion and the makers of the SAM and X1000 then they could. Of course that would mean the who community pulling together and forming a relationship based on trust. |
Just thinking out loud here, but shouldn't the target be bigger than selling PPC to the same audience who mostly has one already?
I'm thinking unify the camps under the official name and press forward on modern hardware. This is probably not what CUSA was trying to get at, but it makes the most sense to me. It would be nice to have everyone working toward the same goal.
The problem is, could the camps work together? Laughable? _________________ Power Mac G4 "Quicksilver 2002" 800Mhz, 1.5GB RAM, Radeon 8500 MorphOS 2.7 (Registered) $225 total spent!
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Re: Commodore USA's Final Challenge to the Community Posted on 20-Dec-2011 2:15:00
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| @CodeSmith I've said repeatedly... Everything is on the table. We do not receive payment until the project is completed. Just decide on a project with as much universal agreement as you can. Payment will be into an escrow account, which the community or representatives of the community set up. _________________ Leo Nigro, CTO Commodore USA, LLC Opinions expressed are my own and not those of C= USA. Commodore/AMIGA "Beautiful, High-Performance, Home Computers for Creativity and Entertainment."
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Re: Commodore USA's Final Challenge to the Community Posted on 20-Dec-2011 2:17:50
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| please answer to my question : is it possible to have an hardware compatible with amigaos 4 ????? |
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Re: Commodore USA's Final Challenge to the Community Posted on 20-Dec-2011 2:21:05
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| @BigBentheAussie
Thanks for spelling it out. I'm assuming by "everything" you mean x86, PPC and 68K/FPGA? |
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Re: Commodore USA's Final Challenge to the Community Posted on 20-Dec-2011 2:22:35
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| Yes. To everything.....but remember there will be costs associated, which would ultimately be divided by the 500+ in the first batch. So, a bit of reality is required. _________________ Leo Nigro, CTO Commodore USA, LLC Opinions expressed are my own and not those of C= USA. Commodore/AMIGA "Beautiful, High-Performance, Home Computers for Creativity and Entertainment."
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Re: Commodore USA's Final Challenge to the Community Posted on 20-Dec-2011 2:23:56
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| Continue the abandoned path of the original Commodore...develop a powerful new compatible chipset and choose a PPC processor. Finally to conclude agreements with Hyperion. _________________
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Re: Commodore USA's Final Challenge to the Community Posted on 20-Dec-2011 2:26:23
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| and for the os ???? linux ? nothing else ??? what are the possibilities ??? |
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Re: Commodore USA's Final Challenge to the Community Posted on 20-Dec-2011 2:36:41
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| @BigBentheAussie
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Yes. To everything.....but remember there will be costs associated, which would ultimately be divided by the 500+ in the first batch. So, a bit of reality is required. |
That's why I suggested that it would be a good idea to let us know what's in the realm of possibility. We have no idea what resources you have available to you. Are we looking at supporting and maybe extending an existing project (eg an FPGAArcade in a nice Amiga enclosure complete with custom Amiga keyboard) or creating something from scratch (eg the sort of projects ACube's been doing) |
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Re: Commodore USA's Final Challenge to the Community Posted on 20-Dec-2011 2:37:43
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| OS could be anything you want..... We'll cross whatever bridges when we reach them. Just decide which bridge. Just realise that development costs would be split across the first 500+. The more realistic the product the less it will cost. Last edited by BigBentheAussie on 20-Dec-2011 at 02:39 AM.
_________________ Leo Nigro, CTO Commodore USA, LLC Opinions expressed are my own and not those of C= USA. Commodore/AMIGA "Beautiful, High-Performance, Home Computers for Creativity and Entertainment."
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Re: Commodore USA's Final Challenge to the Community Posted on 20-Dec-2011 2:46:01
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| thanks for your answer, then why not to make a poll for the os ??? i think os 4should be the choice but who knows. |
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Re: Commodore USA's Final Challenge to the Community Posted on 20-Dec-2011 2:46:35
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| Here's what I'd like to see in a dream Amiga built by Commodore USA...
An Amiga 1200 with a Natami-based motherboard (with a layout near the original) with new peripheral ports as well as the classic peripheral ports (you know, USB, Serial, etc...). Also offering both PowerPC and x86 cards (for the trap door slot expansion) to support Amiga OS4, MorphOS and AROS.
The design approach would follow in the similar vein as the C64x (minus the x86 mobo, etc...) like a newly designed and slightly retro style keyboard in the same inspired all-in-one shell with some obvious modifications to support required components (like an optical drive, etc...).
The reason I say this is a good idea is there were so many other add-ons and options that could take an Amiga 1200 motherboard, stick it in a tower-based case and expand it to do other things. There is a hardware ecosystem built around the A1200 motherboard that it should be nurtured and evolved to support the Amiga market in various ways. Last edited by AmigaMac on 20-Dec-2011 at 02:54 AM.
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